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Discussion in 'Activism' started by hso, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. GAMALOT

    GAMALOT Member

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    Basically what you just said HSO, Billions of legally owned guns didn't kill anyone yesterday while the criminals with illegal guns were having a field day.

    Any politician with a lick of sense already is well aware of this but they have a good crisis at the moment and will not let it go to waste. It is all about Control and very little about guns.
     
  2. Brent J

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    SEN. Hagan from NC

    also claims she is in favor of sport hunting. She also told me that the UN Small Arms Treaty (or whatever it was called) would never pass the Senate. Now, when it came to a vote, she just happened to be absent that day so, she had no mark in her column for or against it.
     
  3. Green Lantern

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    Brent - iiiiinteresting, I called multiple times on that subject and could NEVER get a straight answer from them! :mad:

    ...guess that kinda pokes holes in my theory that they use caller ID to tell people what they think they WANT to hear on a given subject...
     
  4. 1 old 0311-1

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    The problem we are STILL running into, like 2008, and 2012, is the lazy gun owners who don't vote.:eek: These are the first ones that will cry when "EXECUTIVE ORDERS" flush our gun right down the crapper.
     
  5. miamivicedade

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    Well done Bartholomew.
     
  6. OH_Spartan

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    I know it would be daunting but could we get a list of the house members? I got a very pro rkba response from my rep tiberi.
     
  7. Red Sky

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    Good Article - Action Needed From Some

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/15/politics/gun-law-polls/index.html

    Not happy news, but news nonetheless, and there is some hope near the end - and that coming from CNN of all places. Anyone living in states with vulnerable Democratic senators should be blowing up their emails and phones in the coming days. Get anyone else you know who will support us to do the same.

    Unfortunately (or fortunately, for that matter) my effort from Texas doesn't matter much as we already have them on our side.
     
  8. Diamondback6

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    Chalk Cantwell and Murray (D-WA both) up in the Anti-Second Amendment Bigot column. I don't even waste my effort on those two terrorist-sympathizing oxygen thieves anymore...
    (Remember, Patty bin Murray: "Osama builds schools and roads and..." yes, THAT Patty Murray.)
     
  9. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Good to know!

    Many thanks.
     
  11. mortablunt

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    I just sent this to my congresssmen and to Obama:

    "These are the opinions of myself and tens of millions of gun owners who voted for you in the election. We are all outraged by your frankly stupid and pointless gun policy decisions and will NOT support any advocation against the basic human right to firearms and self-defense.. Fight the individual- not the tool. The 1994 AWB did NOTHING to combat crime, and "assault weapons" make up the smallest minority of weapons used in general crimes, mass slayings, and LEO killings.

    Do not violate the constitution for the act of a single madman. After anti-gun laws go into effect, crime goes up. Chicago has a total gun ban, but it is the nation's murder capital. Kennessaw, Georgia, requires every home to have a gun. It is one of the safest places in the country. Flagstaff, Arizona has a lot of guns, but had zero murders in 2011. D.C. unofficially bans guns, but it is one of the nation's most dangerous cities.

    Those who obey gun laws are those who are neither predisposed to nor determined to commit crimes. Criminals, including those who commit firearms offenses, by definition, do not give a damn about the law. Rape, murder, burglary, vandalism, assault, and fraud are illegal, but they are still done. By disarming the good citizens, you put them at the mercy of the bad.

    Heed these words."
     
  12. gdcpony

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    Reply from one of my reps.

    Well, I think we have one. This is actually only the second reply I have had that actually was even related to my letter. Most of the others have either been a "Thanks for contacting, please stay involved" or some off the wall reply having nothing to do with my letter."

    I have begun sending my daughter's essay now as it is a ton more eloquent than my own writing and to let them know how our children feel as well. Better than having them used as pawns the other way.
     
  13. 1911austin

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    Great response. We need to stand behind leaders who are willing to stand up for us.
     
  14. PlusP

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    That is a man who is understands the problem we all face
     
  15. hso

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    If you're Senators aren't on the list they're not up for election in 2014 so they are not include because we can't work to have them reelected or against their reelection in this next election cycle.

    All 435 seats in the United States House of Representatives will be up for election in 2014.

    If you know whether a Representative has a clear position on an AWB please include it.

    Our job is to make sure that every politician running for office in 2012 that supports any restriction on firearms, magazines or ammunition during this struggle doesn't have a job in Washington after Nov. 4, 2014. We have to work to remove them from office during the primary, and failing that, during the election.

    Even if none of this gets out of committee to a floor vote the people who betrayed their office by supporting it have to go. We must prove that this is truly a third rail issue that destroys political careers so it is another 10 years before they forget the lesson.
     
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  16. Bartholomew Roberts

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    That's a good sentence right there. Something maybe to include when writing the rest of our Congress critters.
     
  19. Ole Humpback

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    Heres the letter I just sent to my senators & representative in regards to the bill Senator Feinstein intends to introduce tomorrow:

    Dear Senator/Representative,

    My name is Ole Humpback and I am concerned constituent of yours. I recently was informed that Senator Diane Feinstein intends to introduce a bill in the Senate on Thursday January 25, 2013 in regards to a new version of a so called "assault weapons ban". As an avid outdoorsman and member of both the National Wild Turkey Federation and National Rifle Association, I ask that you oppose this bill.

    I have read the proposed ideas for her bill, President Obamas executive orders that are to be considered for the bill, and Govenor Cuomo's recently signed "assault weapons ban" that is being used as a template for Senator Feinstein's bill and find them all to be unconstitutional in regards to the Second Amendment. Also, although I own no firearms which are semi-automatic versions of military firearms, all the firearms I currently own would be considered "assault weapons" if Senator Feinstein's bill, President Obama's proposals, or a Congressionally approved version of Govenor Cuomo's bill is passed. This would turn me, a law abiding citizen who enjoys hunting and competitive shooting sports, into a criminal due to the fact that my hunting & sproting firearms have qualities that are deemed to be what constitutes an "assault weapon" when in fact none of them can even be called an "assault weapon" in even the loosest terms.

    Also, for you information, an "assault weapon" is a military weapon that has selective rate of fire capabilities (semi-auto, three round burst, and full auto generally speaking), fires a reduced power cartridge, and is designed mainly for short range combat. These weapons are currently illegal for civilians to own. The firearms that these new bills and proposals seek to ban do not meet this definition for "assault weapon". In fact, these firearms are lawfully bought & used by several thousand people in the US & Indiana every year for competitive shooting events.

    With the above said, I again ask that you oppose tomorrow's bill.

    Sincerely,

    Ole Humpback
     
  20. B O

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    Response From Bill Nelson

    Apparently the poll we hit on his site didn't matter much to him :banghead:


    "Thank you for contacting me about policy proposals that seek to reduce gun violence in the wake of the tragedy in Newtown.

    I am a hunter and have always owned guns, and I support the Second Amendment.

    But assault weapons such as AK 47s are intended for killing, not hunting.

    Solutions for reducing gun violence must address many areas, from protecting law enforcement and keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals, to school safety, access to mental health services, and confronting a culture that sometimes glorifies violence.

    I support reinstating the assault weapons ban and restoring the 10-round limit for ammunition magazines. And, I support universal background checks so that we can know if person buying a weapon has a criminal record.

    I appreciate hearing your views on this very important issue, and I will keep them in mind. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.

    Sincerely,
    Bill Nelson"
     
  21. Shear_stress

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    My preemptive letter to my senators regarding "assault weapons" legislation

    With Senator Feinstein unleashing her proposed "assault weapons" legislation tomorrow, I sent a preemptive letter to the senators representing my state. In it, I took a different tack than some folks. Instead of focusing on the 2nd Amendment directly, I decided to appeal to the fact that we really do have the statistics on our side. Time will tell if it makes a damn bit of difference.

     
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  22. LevelHead

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    Very nice - may I use most of it as well?

    Typo in the third paragraph - "was has been sold to the public since 1964"
     
  23. Shear_stress

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    Be my guest! Thanks for catching that typo.
     
  24. 2ifbyC

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    It makes a major difference for reasons that you may have not contemplated:
    1. It improves your cognitive thinking so you can write in a concise, cogent manner.
    2. You have exercised your right to have your voice heard and to ensure your representatives know your position on issues that are important to you.
    3. You were “in the arena” and not on the sidelines making judgments.
    4. It instills pride and self-worth.
    Good job. Hopefully, you will serve as a model for others to express their inner voice.
     
  25. jamesbeat

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    Beautiful.
     

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