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Revolver for a female friend

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Robert B, Sep 27, 2012.

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  1. Robert B

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    :)I have a coworker who is new to shooting. She wants to carry a CCW gun and also use that gun on the hiking trail for problem animals. I told her that we can go to the local range and that she and her husband could rent guns and shoot them to help decide what to buy. I also know not to pick my best choice for her to buy. I am wondering though. Would a SP101 or S&W 640 be a good choice? I told her that she could carry one of these with .38's for in town, and have her husband carry it on the trail with .357's in it. I like the weight of these two guns as they should not hurt her hand to shoot .38's. She is planning on purse carry so I will recommend a good pocket holster along with a designated section of the purse just for the gun. What do you guys think of my thinking on this? Which of the above guns would have the least perceived recoil? Thanks.
     
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    What I think you'll find is that most people will say it doesn't matter what we think, only what she thinks.

    That being said, I've taught a fair number of women to shoot, everything from .22s to .45s, and the gun that most of them have enjoyed the most is a 3" stainless Rossi 851 in .38. Easy to learn, easy to control, mild recoil, just plain fun (and light enough to stick in a purse without it feeling like a lugging around a bowling ball). So I'd think something in that ballpark would be a safe bet.
     
  3. Texan Scott

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    I don't think she could go too far wrong with the sp101.
     
  4. Certaindeaf

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    They usually like those tip-up berreta's that don't work. just leave them alone
     
  5. Certaindeaf

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    I think it's recommended to recommend them to the Cornered Cat site.

    [Fixed your reference and added a link. Ms. Jackson's site is a fabulous resource for women who carry, indeed!]
     
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    RE: revolver for a female friend......

    I just went through this again with a friend who is trying to help his girlfriend or as he puts it "his friend who happens to be a girl" choose a ccw pistol.

    I got stuck with her the 1st time and then again on the next and last outing trying to instruct her. Make sure your friend has the physical dexterity and or strength to operate safely the firearms she tries. Next make sure she can grip it and hold it out there without tiring. This all ties in to strength requirements.

    This lady wouldnt listen and kept insisting an an auto that she couldnt even pull the slide back on. She also brought loaner guns from other family others that were all peices of ........ .

    Good luck. i dont know if an SP101 is a good choice. She has to make that decision. I also advocate .22s to new shooters. Yeah I know its little but its better to hit than to "hope" that the loud noise and flash scare somebody away. Also more fun to practice and get good with and cheap.
     
  7. weblance

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    The SP101 is an excellent choice. Consider the Ruger LCR also. The S&W 638, 640, 642 & 649 are also excellent choices. Taurus also makes good, small, dependable revolvers. The least felt recoil would be the heaviest of the lot... and that would be the SP101.
     
  8. TAKtical

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    Why does everyone assume that a revolver is a good choice for a woman? Whats wrong with a small 9mm?
     
  9. Certaindeaf

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    Because they are magich and 9mm's are wrong. And so the wheel turns, no pun intended. lolz
     
  10. DeMilled

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    I'll share what happened when I was helping my wife pick out a purse gun...


    We settled on the SP101, 2 1/4" barrel, with the stock/non-bobbed hammer, XS Big Dot night sight and took it to the range. After two cylinders of 357 she was done practicing. 38SPL she likes to shoot for about an hour of practice. "No big deal, practice with 38s and carry 357." Says I.
    Ol Lady is confident with it and reloads it just fine. Good to go here...

    I ordered a Simply Rugged Sourdough Pancake holster and asked her to pick out a purse to use as her gun purse. She is not overly big on purses and carries a wallet most of the time, so it was easy for her to pick a purse and designate it as the "Gun Purse".
    I punches a few holes through one of the inner purse dividers and used 1/8" 8/32 machine screws and washers to secure the holster to the inside of the purse. If the gun is needed she knows exactly where in the purse it will always be found and the gun will not drag out an unsecured holster with it.

    The purse she picked has an outer pocket thingy that is just perfect for two speed loaders.

    The only things that go in her "Gun Purse" are her wallet, SP101, speed loaders and a 300 lumen LED flashlight, and I assume her cell phone.


    Keep the gun purse simple, uncluttered and secure a holster inside it somehow. Reloads and flashlight are a must, in my opinion.



    All that said; I would look real hard at the SP101 with the 4" barrel.
    The S&W 640 is no slouch either.
    Have her shoot the SP101, 2 1/4, 3", or 4" barrel and the the 640 and see which one she shoots best.

    Glad to see you helping her out!
    Guys like you aught to have one of those beer commercials just for you.
    "Real American Heroes..."
     
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    I do not like the SP101 or it's trigger but I'm a big fan of the M640. Either however is not a a pocket holster because of their weight, especially for a woman if she is on the small side. If she decides to carry in a purse make sure it's a purse designed specifically for carrying a handgun. Be sure she knows not to put her purse down or leave it unattended.

    Before they do anything have both of them read the contents of a very good WEB Site, The Cornered Cat which was made by a very smart woman. Kathy also has a good book out that's a good read for both men and especially woman.
     
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    The .357 is the logical caliber due to its versatility. And I've always said that the S&W Model 13 was the "perfect" home defense gun. Unfortunately, guns that are easy to carry have only 5 shots and magnum rounds are hard on the shooter. And 6-shot guns tend to be too heavy nowadays.

    The SP-101 is the best I could recommend, especially on the trail with dangerous animals. A few years ago, a couple began being stalked by a black bear. No matter how fast they walked, the bear kept them in sight and sized them up. At some point the husband decided, for whatever reason, to run up ahead, get help and return. But by the time he did, the bear was feasting on her partially-eaten body.

    Now I'm a big believer in pepper spray for man or beast; however, having a .357 on my person would make me feel much more comfortable. (When shooting bear, aim for the nose or mouth of the beast. If you shoot between the eyes, but bullet has a tendency to ricochet off the top of its head. The brain cavity is also somewhat lower, so the nose and mouth works.)

    A 3-inch barrel also is ideal for outdoor carry. If you can, you might look for a used Ruger Speed-Six, which holds six shots or even used S&W 13/65. All can be had in 3-inch or close barrels.

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    Ruger Security-Six w/2.75-inch barrel. Outstanding pistol!



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    Speed-Six with 3-inch barrel.
     
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    I second the recommendation of corneredcat.com
     
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    Because a revolver is the logical choice for any beginner. Because a revolver always goes BANG. Because a revolver is still an excellent choice for CC. Because a revolver is basically foolproof. Because a revolver will never malfunction when limp wristed. Should I keep going...?
     
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    Not too long ago a friend of mine was looking for a revolver for his wife for CCW. She didn't like any of the semi-autos he had (including a S&W Bodyguard. 380), so he decided to go with a .38 Special revolver. Found a S&W Model 638 with a 3" barrel which was perfect for her. Also got her a purse specifically made for concealed carry with an inner pocket and several holster inserts for a proper fit for her gun.
     
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    Have her look at this website for a purse,,,

    www.guntotenmamas.com

    I hate wearing a holster so I bought their Mens Carry Briefcase and love it,,,
    Several of my lady friends use their purses.

    They are a scary bunch of ladies in the website picture,,,
    But they were very pleasant to deal with,,,
    I recommend them very highly.

    Aarond

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    Because a revolver has an very long and heavy trigger pull resulting in pulling the gun off target and missing? Because the recoil can be horrendous resulting in missed shots and reduced practice? Because velocity out of a revolver is less than that of a similar-sized 9mm? Because when a revolver locks up - you can't "tap, rack, bang" and are left with a paperweight?

    Should I keep going?.................. really..................
     
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    The lady in question needs to go with basic www.nrahq.org/women/isc/index.asp or www.nssf.org//FirstShots/Seminars/ and then she can make informed choices as to what meets her needs the best.

    I do like the revolver, .357 magnum/.38 Special combo, but that remains to be seen. Ammo versatility and one can tailor the ammo to the mission is a advantage. She'll be able to decide what ammo/gun combo works best for her.

    S&W,Ruger,and Taurus revolver or pistols should be looked at to see which she can hold, shoot well,and can handle the trigger all the way through with aplomb.

    I also recommend that she and you go through the links within this link. There's a lot of women sites that are informative.
    http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/bustles-bows-bullets/64578-list-your-women-guns-site-source.html

    Use this as a source.
     
  19. JDGray

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    Simply not accurate, any gun can malfunction.... To think otherwise is foolish to say the least.
     
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    Check the sticky at the top of this sub forums main page;
    "So you want to buy your wife/girlfriend a gun"

    Lots of good info
     
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    Sure a SP101 or a Smith 60/640 are good choices I'd second the motion to let her try some of the compact 9mm/40/45s too and then LET HER DECIDE.
     
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    I prefer s$w (no mistake). My wife prefers Ruger GP-100.
     
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    Ruger SP101 in 327 Federal Magnum.
     
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    Weblance, there are so many things wrong with that statement, I dont even know how to respond. Revolvers are no more reliable than any quality auto-loader, they are not foolproof, limp wristing malfunction is a myth as far as im concerned. Ive purposely tried to make my auto-loaders malfunction by "limp wristing" and could not make it happen with glocks, 1911's or XD's. Corneredcat, a womens site, for and by women, has specifically addressed this myth that women need or want revolvers for their first gun. Maybe you should check that out. Everyone should make a well informed decision about their first firearm purchase.
     
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    I have a Ruger SP101 in .327 Federal and the double action trigger is pretty rough. The Smiths are generally smoother to shoot double action. The lighter S&W .38/.357 magnum alloy revolvers are actually brutal to shoot.

    My wife lacks the hand/arm strength to work the slide on a Glock, M&P, or 1911, and even a NAA .32 ACP slide is a challenge; however, she has no trouble firing or hitting with her ported Taurus Total Titanium Tracker in .357 Magnum. That gun truly fits her hand and she can really hit with it. That is key...what can they hit with, what works and what fits.

    She keeps it loaded with seven 125 grain magnum JHP's (anti-personnel) and has 180 grain hard cast FP's in the ammo carrier for critters (we have bears & hawgs up here). She also keeps a 9x18 mm Makarov in the car, but I have to rack the slide for her. She's had to pull that one once to thwart a car jacker. He hauled butt into the next county.

    Semi-autos are not as easy for some to use for that very reason; whereas, revolvers are simpler and easier. Either a S&W 351C ("hammerless" DAO Century frame) or a 351PD (standard exposed hammer J-frame) loaded with 45 grain Hornady Critical Defense loads in .22 WMR is also viable. Both are 10 ounce 7-shot alloy J-frame revolvers that are easy for someone with weak hands to manipulate and have no recoil. Plus, I don't know anyone who wants to stand in front of either one and take a cylinder full.
     
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