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Revolver or Modern Hi-cap Pistol?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Charlie Martinez, Sep 7, 2020.

  1. Charlie Martinez

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    Update on my friend's final decision.

    He purchased a S&W Airweight 38 Special (hammerless model) and decided to take the CC course. The guy at the gun shop told him not having an exposed hammer added a degree of safety should the gun fall into the wrong hands. I don't agree so much with that idea but since he's going to CC with it the hammerless feature is fine.
    He is now looking to buy a 12 gauge Mossberg 500 or Remington pump.
    Since he now intends to CC I think he made a good choice with the S&W snubbie.
    He hasn't fired the revolver since he took the CC course because he can't find 38 Special ammo. I did warn him about that and one of the reasons why I advised him to consider at 9mm pistols.
    I think he's moving along in a good direction and hopefully he will put in the practice needed to master whatever he chooses to carry or use for HD.
     
  2. Vern Humphrey

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    And a 9-shot* M1911 over a six-shot revolver,


    * 8-round magazine, plus one up the spout.
     
  3. John Joseph

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    The reality is that there are handguns all over the country---mostly old and some even inoperable---sitting in dresser drawers, seldom if ever shot. They are there, believe it or not, for security.
    Is it safe? No.
    Is it adequate? Probably not.
    Is it prudent? Perhaps.
    Is it useful? Psychologically they serve a purpose.
    Should it be discouraged? It is a Constitutional Right, dammit!
    Let's pray he doesn't do anything truly stupid and hurt himself or somebody else.
    If the OP can get his friend out to the range and take Home Defense seriously, that will likely be the best scenario available.

    The issue I see is the new gun owner isn't going to want to spend money on expensive ammo, if he can even find any.
    And that's a legit excuse.
    Heck, most pistoleros I know are cutting back during this shortage---even handloading components are getting scarce!
    $30 or $40 bucks for a box of .38s or 9mm range ammo is quite a hit after spending a bucket of bucks on a good handgun and you expect him to part with that every week or two?

    If he can come up with the scratch to buy a brick of .22lrs take him to the range and rent or loan him a .22. Teach him basic safety and marksmanship first. That way, when he buys a handgun at least he's got a clue and less likely to end up as a statistic..
    He might even find it enjoyable.
     
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  4. Kleanbore

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    That blew right by me.
     
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  5. Kleanbore

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    I wonder that he thinks he would do with it.....

    That will cover the shooting aspect. It'a a start.

    I suggest taking a plastic training gun and visiting him with a friend. Unload the real gun and secure it.

    Do some role playing, and try a number of different what-if scenarios.

    Try to impart some knowledge of not only the legal aspects but also the "tactical" reality. Point out the risks of not being able to access the firearm in a particular drill, of being ambushed while looking for the source of that bump in the night, of shooting an innocent---and so on.

    Then sit down and talk about it with him.
     
  6. BlueHeelerFl

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    I would suggest he get one of those inexpensive gun lock boxes that he can keep on or in his night stand to keep them away from the kids.
     
  7. chicharrones

    chicharrones needs more ammo

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    Do you have a box or two of .38s you could sell him?

    One of my sister-in-laws got a new S&W Shield and a Texas LTC a few months ago, but due to the ammo shortage I ended up gifting her two boxes of 9mm JHP. She's been divorced for over a year, two college age daughters with her, etc. etc.
     
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    diverting comment removed at Moderator request.
     
  9. GEM

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    No, we have done that a hundred times, so let's stop the handloading/court diversion.
     
  10. chicharrones

    chicharrones needs more ammo

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    What's that got to do with giving or selling someone ammo? :scrutiny:
     
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  11. Vern Humphrey

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    If they handloaded, they wouldn't need you to give or sell it to them.

    Give a man ammo and he can shoot for a day. Teach him to reload, and he can shoot for life.
     
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  12. chicharrones

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    Vern, The High Road isn't the rest of the world and folks in the rest of the world aren't necessarily forward thinking reloaders.

    In both the OP's situation and my situation, the gun owners in question are new to firearms. I've yet to meet a new cartridge shooting firearm owner to take up reloading on their first gun purchase. Or second, or third, or . . .

    In my sister-in-law's case, she grew up without firearms and her ex-husband didn't have firearms either. I can guarantee my sister-in-law doesn't have the inclination to learn reloading and she wouldn't want to pay for the equipment to do so.

    Once ammo stocks replenish, both my sister-in-law and the OP's friend can simply order some ammo online or get it at the local gun range. Until then, a little help from friends and family during tight times isn't a bad thing.
     
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    Did this salesman have Brylcreem in his hair, wear a plaid jacket, and a white belt and shoes?
     
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    I’d rather a Colt’s 1911 above all else but between that and a tupperware gun like the Block I’d take a trusty wheelgun any day.
     
  15. Vern Humphrey

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    Either a M1911 or a Colt New Service.
     
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  18. chicharrones

    chicharrones needs more ammo

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    Many things mentioned in that article are exactly why the first handgun I bought (over 25 years ago) was my Ruger GP100. For the life of me, I can't remember why I bought a 6" barrel over a 4" barrel, though. o_O
     
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  19. ThomasT

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    It is. And if you get the chance look over that whole website. All of his articles are as good as that one. And if you reload 38 Special he has very good advive on that too.

    https://www.hensleygibbs.com/edharris/backcreekdiary.htm
     
  20. c1ogden

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    Back in the 70s it was an empty 1911 in a strategic location with a mag or two in your pocket. This was called "Condition 4".
     
  21. StrawHat

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    We considered the 1911 but because there was no magazine disconnect, it cannot be left with one up the spout.

    I would have preferred the ACP cartridge to the Parabellum but hits count.

    Kevin
     
  22. Scott.M

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    I'd tell him to get a pitching wedge.
     
  23. film495

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    a revolver can be picked up and, for the most part, fired by simply pulling the trigger. the beretta 92 I keep in my desk next to me, requires that it be taken out of the holster, racked, and safety flipped ... neither is totally safe, but my estimation is the semi-auto, is vastly less likely for someone who doesn't know how to operate it, to find it and cause it to discharge (a child or young adult, who is not trained). a 4 year old can pick up a revolver and get it to go off.
     
  24. BLACKHAWKNJ

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    The only safety is behind the eyes and between the ears and if there untrained adults and children around then he must be very careful in securing it.
    I consider revolvers "safer" for the untrained and inexperienced until they develop proper gun handling habits.
    Easier to ascertain if they are loaded and a DA revolver requires more attention when pulling the trigger in either mode.
     
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