Richard Wyatt of TV show 'American Guns' convicted on multiple counts.

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  1. Acera

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    Another star of a firearm centered TV show goes down. 2nd time the person who purported to be a dealer did not actually hold the license.

    What the heck is the Discovery Channel thinking when they set up these shams?
    A little due diligence should have raised a red flag on these guys.

    Just waiting for the shoe to drop on Will Hayden. My bet is he will do more time than Wyatt.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/colorado-guns-idUSL2N1GQ1I9


    https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/03/13/american-guns-convicted-ten-felony-counts/

    (Note discrepancy in reporting the dates he lost his license? Some stories say 1999 before the show was started, and others 2012. IIRC the 1999 date is the correct one.)
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  2. HankB

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    Income tax evasion - that's a biggie. They got Al Capone on that. They got Leona Helmsley on that. And this guy thought they WOULDN'T get HIM on that?

    Not paying taxes on over $1,000,000 on income and then GOING ON TELEVISION TO RAISE YOUR PUBLIC PROFILE?!?!

    Beyond dumb - gets the "double facepalm" award.
     
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  3. Acera

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    Well Frank, can you then move it to a more appropriate section of this forum?



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    Moving to General Discussion
     
  5. 340PD

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    Don't forget S&W building and marketing a snubbie around this guys show.

     
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    Seems maybe that was the point of choosing these guys? Quick background check looks sketchy, so the show must go on. And with the increased publicity comes more scrutiny and bingo! Another win for the MSM and ATF.

    Any time I see footage filmed in a local gun or pawn store I see it as an act of desperation for free publicity - which means sales must be horrible. One reason for that, bad pricing and a lack of interesting merchandise.

    Put your store on TV and I avoid it for a while after that. Not only for cooperating with the media but because it implies other negative conditions. I always see some inexpensive black gun on camera, never anything high quality or "fudd." Noticed that? Engraved Belgian Brownings with gold relief don't fit their agenda.
     
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    Not too many years ago, my wife and I took a two-day class from him. I was a little leery about his bona fides, so I sent a snail mail letter to Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch asking about Rich since he (Rich) had mentioned Mr. Smith in his promotional materials. Mr. Smith's wife, Heidi, called me on the phone and gave me a kind, but veiled, opinion. I took the opinion to heart, but thought to myself, as I am sometimes wont to do, "How bad could it be?"

    Rich seemed a little slick to us and while we felt the class was beneficial, we felt that we wouldn't do any further business with his outfit. I am unsurprised about his legal difficulties. Sometimes these things stem from character.
     
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    Barring that and the other double reverse stings, that are the essential tools of the BATFEwhatever (and other TLA's), how could we maintain the world's highest incarceration rate? :scrutiny:
     
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    Help my memory- is this the show where the owners daughter wore short shorts, and every time they went shooting the targets blew up/caught fire?
     
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    ^^^^ That sounds more like a Dukes Of Hazzard show you are describing to me.:D I guess I live a sheltered life with regards to some "entertainment".:scrutiny:
     
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    "Help my memory- is this the show where the owners daughter wore short shorts, and every time they went shooting the targets blew up/caught fire?"

    Methinks that was "Sons of Guns". The "Sons Of Guns" shop owner, Will Hayden, was accused of molesting his younger daughter. The daughter who starred on the show later accused her dad of molesting her too.
     
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    This is NOT a case of the big bad ATF trying to take out another patriotic American...

    As well known to Denver Metro gun owners, Rich Wyatt is a shyster and a stain on the gun dealer profession.
     
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    Yes, that's right. She had a long neck too. They also used a helicopter to fly to customers every now and then. Their custom work sounded awesome when talking with customers but the finished article was usually a major let down. One example, a customer wanted a "James Bond" style car where it would shoot guns while driving. They charged a ridiculous sum and ended up putting a Walther PPK underneath the car which was controlled by the driver. If I were to spend that much money I'd rather have something a bit more substantial than that...
     
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    Paige Wyatt was the girl, and her daddy seemed perfectly happy to have her parading around in her shorts and midriff tops to draw in the male audience. She was definitely cute, but is notable for having the longest neck I've ever seen not on a giraffe.

    The few times I watched the show the main thought I was left with was that everything was WAY overpriced.

    It will be interesting to see if the tax evading TV gun show guy does more time than the child molesting TV gun show guy.
     
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    Same went for his wife. Odds are most viewers tuned in to see how much skin they exposed every week vs the guns they produced. I started to watch the show when it first came out, but as it went on the guns got more impractical and the drama more intense. Iffin I remember correctly there was also a very suspicious theft that was never solved at one of his stores also, right about the time there were rumors of financial troubles. Seems to be the norm with reality shows. Jim West of the show "Wild West Alaska" got run up on a slew of game violations. Look at Uncle Ted, Clark Dixon and heck, even Atz Lee and Jane Kilcher of "Alaska, the last Frontier".
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  16. Acera

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    Going to have to fix this for you Elkins. To be correct, this is how what you posted should have read.


    (Yes, that is her real last name)

    Wife, not original wife
    Kids, fathered by different man.



    Regarding gun-centered reality shows, 'The Gunfather' seems to be a pretty good one. Haven't seen any signs of impending implosion or disaster with that one.

    http://outdoorchannel.com/the-gunfather

    And I would like to visit that shop.
    http://customshopinc.com/







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    What does that have to do with it? I'm on my second wife and she's still my wife....and I'm much more protective and possessive of her than I ever was with my first. I also have adopted step-children, fathered by someone else. They still call me dad and they are still my children, both legally and emotionally, and in both directions. Donating sperm does not make one a dad, only means they fathered a child.
     
  18. Acera

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    Correcting a common misconception that is all.

    Also in some cases, the step dad is more apt to condone/accept/promote behavior than the real father would. Plus she did/does not dress much differently than lot of girls her age.

    Speaking of first wife..................

    https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/interesting-lawsuit.124906/




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    Just going by how she was identified on the show. Google "Paige Wyatt" and it's her picture you find, many with the TV network logo on them. Sorry if it upset you somehow.
     
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    Yep that's the show I'm thinking of. The whole show was blatenly fake. No one would pay the prices they where asking for custom work but the customers seemed thrilled to buy. As I recall the most noteworthy part of the show was the piles of trash they left behind after shooting.
     
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    You did not upset me, you just posted something factually wrong. I corrected you. A little research will show you the truth (even Wiki got it correct, that is a pretty easy find on google).

    Discovery probably kept it inaccurate for simplicity, and to promote an image. It might have kept people from digging deeper and finding out more that they did not think would be flattering to the show. Read the linked THR thread (post 18) to find out some less than desirable things about him, before Discovery made the show. They should have known better.

    Hopefully they (Discovery Channel) will learn from this and the other guy who had a show that was prohibited from being a FFL, but promoted himself as one. I don't like the shadow it casts over honest, ethical gun owners and FFLs when those types of folks are shown to millions of viewers as the face of our dealers.



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    What Elkins posted was not "factually" wrong according to many folk's definition of Dad.


    As for the idea that a Step-father is more apt to condone/accept/promote behavior than the real father would is about as "factually" wrong as one can get. None of this has anything to do with the conviction of Richard Wyatt, altho I'm sure the scantily clad women were meant to attract male viewers. You are correct tho, the clothing Page wore on the show is no more provocative/outrageous than what other girls her age wear. Clothing meant to attract the attention of the opposite sex.
     
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    buck, ask yourself one question. What is more correct in describing Rich Wyatt, step dad or father to the two kids in the show? How can you still get your panties in a wad over correcting the misconception? The fact he is the step dad (maybe you need to google that definition) and not the father (why did this strike a nerve with you? hmmmmm). You don't need to defend Discovery Channel in their misrepresentation of the facts. Look at how the girl presents herself on social media. She uses her biological fathers name. Shaking my head as how the pair of you guys can't understand this and want to continue to promote an obvious falsehood.



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    Finally the folks at AR15.com will have something else to talk about besides Paige's neck and Renee's ..em.. augmentations.
    Whenever I start to think the moderation here can be rather heavy handed, I put on my asbestos suit and checkout AR15.com and see how they are representing gun culture.

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    what ever came of that? i thought him and the tattooed guy were atf or something of the sorts cause i remember an episode of them standing there with badges saying if you try this at home we will be coming for you.
     
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