Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Jason_W, Jul 18, 2017.
I thought that's what my Ruger American Rimfire was.
I always got a kick out of Hawes revolvers names. Deputy Denver Marshall. Deputy Silver City Marshall. Chief Marshall. And so on...
Beautiful and not beautiful.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and using a subjective term like "beautiful" doesn't really help.
How would we differentiate this "not beautiful" utility/all-purpose rifle from an AR-15?
People seem to have an issue with the term "tactical" and I struggle to understand it but it beats the hell out of "assault rifle" any day of the week.
Knew that'd be coming my way. I stand by it though and do appreciate your point.
The thread was tongue in cheek. I mostly just consider it a tacky marketing term. I'm not losing sleep over it or anything.
Aesthetics? Taste? Beauty? (ARs work great and all, but it amuses me to no end whenever someone says they look "beautiful"; they look like a hydraulic actuator assembly or something, and they basically are. They've an awkward steampunk 'look' if anything)
I thought about this last night...my EDC is a S&W, mod 4553, dao....TACTICAL. Been carrying this 15 years. And, I do have two of those "Diamondback" Colts. They shoot pretty good.
The difference is "modern" versus "timeless." The old Hotchkiss LMGs and Madsen were every bit as effective and well made as anything of their day (if not outright superior) and just as historically significant as any bolt rifle. And yet, modern designs of fine weapons shy away from odd shapes jutting from receivers at funny angles, thick layers of enamel paint, blocky stamped lettering, large lumps of heavy bronze, and crank-handles (even in bolt rifles, an elegant bent spoon bolt is superior to a giant machined knob stuck straight out like you'd see on a modern 'chassis' rifle)
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" is an oxymoron since the phrase explicitly applies to inexplicable fascination with objectively ugly objects
Yeah, I always thought it was the terms high capacity and firepower put together.
Hey hey hey, glossy finished scopes are NEVER tactical.
Man designed a 9mm carbine. Named it the Terry, after his daughter. Later he redesigned it into a pistol. Named it the Linda, after his wife. Also made two other guns - the Diane (a 25) and the Sherry (a 22). I suspect Diane and Sherry were also his daughters.
Biggest Finest Revolver. Get your mind out of the gutter Joking of course. We know their intention. I actually like that one.
Not sure if you are calling me a moron, (eh, I could be, ask my wife), but that wasn't an "ad", that was just a picture I took that happened to have a Starbucks cup of coffee brought to me by my range buddy for the day. I also remember a time a while ago when pro rights persons were encouraged to buy Starbucks products with a $2 bill to recognize them for refusing to back down to an anti group and ban firearms in their stores. I don't know if they have signs up in Arizona or not - I don't shop there, too expensive. Dunkin Donuts coffee is better.
Still, there is a trend to tack on word after word now, which in marketing seems to express more to the buyer than adding on another suffix. We "get it" when reading about the new M4A2 or -3, but the public new to guns doesn't, and THAT is the market being targeted as it is expanding exponentially. So it's not wrong - in Marketing's view - to label something the Tactical Carbine Short Enhanced Ambidextrous Close Combat Trunk Carry. Explains what it does.
Not really much different than what a "Mare's Leg" was meant for in it's day. We just changed the perspective to match the modern use. Since we are no longer using the Old West as a marketing vehicle - how many cowboy action story lines are used on TV now? - we use military and LEO which dominates the 18-35 targeted market.
Goes to broadcast coming up with a new series, "Navy SEALS." Even NCIS is getting old. And "Walker, Texas Ranger" slipped into reruns on free side channels saturated with health care lawsuits. So, yeah, the gun makers are focusing on the CURRENT buying market with the newer names. After all, a look down the firing line at the local range on a busy weekend does reveal that. Most posters here avoid that day, after all, when "every day is Saturday" it's the one day you don't pick to go shoot. And you see a lot of older more traditional guns during the week.
Times are changing and so are the names of guns. It's also focused on those afternoon gamers who grew up with virtual shooting galleries, and they are a significant buyer market in the near future. Whether we like it or not.
We might not all have picked up Kahr's somewhat arbitrary numbering conventions but I can't say I dislike them. Think what they would be with "names" tacked on one after the other. I can say it does lend a more "professional" tinge to their product line, most of the older ones seem to do that. SIG didn't get hurt by it and Glock is hip deep in an simple numbering scheme seemingly based on chronological introduction regardless of caliber or features.
So it goes, the shorter and more numerical the naming convention, the more "official" the product line and who its offered to. The other hand, the more nouns are used, the more recreational the marketing emphasis. I see that in watches to some degree, too.
I don't think they're "beautiful" at all but some folks do. Even Glocks, heaven forbid. "Cool" is about as good as I can do.
For some but not all. Some folks think the old topless Colt percussion and cartridge conversion revolvers are ugly. Or that engraving is tacky. There's no help for some.
Yeah but now it's wearing an Aimpoint so it's uber-tactical.
Apr 24, 2007
"I think some of the best and most colorful names used to be with the so called Saturday Night Specials of yesteryear. I mean some real great revolver names like Encore, Eureka, Smoker, Old Hickory, Blue Jacket, Tycoon, Rattler, Swamp Angel, and Tiger".
I would love to see a Smith & Wesson SMOKER........Maybe 8 shot .357 or .44m
And here I thought those were the worst. It got slightly irritating trying to talk about them back in the day. Asking to see a 6" Python always got stupid chuckles, or the inevitable guy who would offer to show you his 8" Anaconda instead.
So I got a Highway Patrolman. It was a mistake on so many levels.
Those 28-2s are going up in value - I've seen them for $1000 in the used gun case.
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