rifle for polar bear

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I was looking into a ruger no.1 rifle and was having a tough time deciding on caliber, being that uncle sam is sending me to alaska I felt the safest bet would be to pick a caliber sufficient for the biggest predator out there and that should cover me as far as everyting else.

so with that being said what caliber would you choose.
 
Fred Bear took a Polar Bear with a bow, of course thats also how he took an elephant. That being said I'd go 40something .416 [lapua or rigby] or even .45/90
 
bow? I'm not that good with a bow unfortunately, however I could try to one up good ole fred and take the bear with my mre spoon...though my wife would probably be alittle upset with me :p.

great suggestions on caliber ;)
 
do they make one in 375 weatherby mag?

270 grain spitzer or soft point at 3000 fps would do the trick.
 
.338 Winchester Magnum loaded with 250 Nosler Partitions would be my absolute minimum, in a controlled round feed bolt action like a Ruger 77, CZ550, or Model 70.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
CRF bolt action .375H&H. Bought mine just for a big bear hunt (that, unfortunately, has been postponed). I, personally, wouldn't find anything short of .35Whelen acceptable, and that is borderline IMO. Other options would include .338WM, 9.3x64Brenneke, .35Brown-Whelen, .405Winchester (borderline), stout .45-70Govt. (in a Siamese Mauser, no singles for that use), .416Rigby (a bit more than necessary, but it'll do the job), .458WM (and above, but again this is more than enough). Second shot capability is paramount, as is reliability under adverse conditions, however the kill shot is likely going to present itself at some range (remember the type of terrain you are in), so you want a decent trajectory. This makes the .375H&H, .338WM, 9.3x64Brenneke, .35Brown-Whelen, .35Whelen, and .416Rigby the only logical choices, with the first 3 being near ideal IMO.

You also want to select your load carefully. I would highly recommend a well constructed expanding type bullet for the first shot, followed by solids in case the quarry turns, thereby presenting a more challenging shot that requires more penetration and most importantly a straight trajectory post-impact. I would load on the high side with magnum primers, but not exceed the maximum recommended load (or if signs of pressure are noted, slightly below signs at normal temp & pressure). This would not be acceptable for the humid, hot climate of Africa, but in the desert tundra of NA you can load a bit higher without fear of cases sticking due to pressure (but DON'T go too far).

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I believe that the world record was taken with a 270 Win. And that one has been taken with a 22 lr.

Personally, I think that any rifle equipped with an armored personnel carrier would be adequate...

(And I would take a 375 H&H. That is how Alaska equips their game wardens.)
 
being that uncle sam is sending me to alaska I felt the safest bet would be to pick a caliber sufficient for the biggest predator out there

Haven't all the polar bears drowned by now? :rolleyes:

375 Holland and Holland is awfully sweet.

KR
 
As big a fan as I am of the Ruger #1, I wouldn't take it polar bear hunting. Usually, I'm the one griping that people worry too much about follow up shots, but not on bear. You still have to put the first one where it'll do the most good, but it's definately a good idea to have a quick second. A good bolt like Maverick223's picture in a caliber of at least .338 Win Mag would be my choice. I know you can kill em with smaller, but I would err on the side of caution.
 
If it were me, I'd be going for a Barrett in .50 BMG. Not because I would actually need it, just sounds like a good excuse to get one.:D
 
30/30 Winchester. I know it sounds crazy but for a long time it was the most popular caliber among the native Alaskans. The really weird part is that the most popular calibers they choose now are even lighter, and much flatter shooting than that. I've read that .22/250's and 7.62x54 are among the most popular now. But those folks are "HUNTERS" through and through.
 
One thing that needs clarification is the purpose of said rifle. I was (possibly incorrectly) assuming that it would be for a possible hunt, is that the case, or is SD the objective? If the rifle is purely for defense, you may want something that is more suitable for easy carry. Also, if that is the case, you won't even see a Polar...but you might see an equally deadly Kodiak...and they frequent less remote areas (but aren't exactly common from what I hear), thereby increasing the potential for a close-in shot.

:)
 
Well, I'd probably take my Marlin 1895 .45-70 with heavy hard cast loads. If I were actually hunting them, my 700 BDL SS .375 Ultra.

That said, the most affordable option is probably a short 12 gauge firing Brenneke slugs. Definitely enough for a big bear, just not good for long range work.

30/30 Winchester. I know it sounds crazy but for a long time it was the most popular caliber among the native Alaskans. The really weird part is that the most popular calibers they choose now are even lighter, and much flatter shooting than that. I've read that .22/250's and 7.62x54 are among the most popular now. But those folks are "HUNTERS" through and through.

I worked with a guy who was a native (eskimo, not just born there). He used a .222 Rem. for seals.
 
If your not an Eskimo, you cannot hunt Polar Bear. Gotta be a Native Alaskan and reside on the coast (so's city slickin' Natrives cant legally hunt them either)
A 12 gauge is probly best, because to be a "DLP" Defense of life and property, you wont be doing a 100 yard shot or the Fish and Fin cops wont let you get away with shooting a Bear because you were scared....

Hunting them is a bit different.

Guys around here like .22-250, .243w to 30-06 and quite a few Alasakn Eskimo's as well as Siberian Eskimos use 7.62X54r
The reason why they do is because while hunting them, they are White colored on a white colored background, and VERY hard to judge distances out there, if you see them at all. The flattest shooting accurate rifle that puts a .22 sized bullet in the right spot (brain, spine) at a decent distance is better than the ones that har high powered with a rainbow trajectory.
Same range estimations effect Seal hunters, and .222 .223, 22-250, .243w are the coice of the pro's who are also most lkely to cross paths with a Polar Bear.
On Seals as well as Polars a temple shot for the "Dead right there" is easily accomplished with those cartriges, and 150-250 yards is about average for such shots.

IF a guy has such, 30-30, 30-06, ect. he simply must get closer,(not always the best thing) because a small Polar Bear up close looks the same as a big one far away, and bullet placement is "Iffy" so the flatter shooting bullet gets preference in such an environment. Besides, it must be a good placement 'cause chasing a wounded Polar Bear over jumbled up blocks of ice just aint happening, or across broken up pans of ice when the Bear decides to swim to the next ice.
 
If your not an Eskimo, you cannot hunt Polar Bear.
When did this take effect? I was under the impression that there were a few tags given out each year, hard to acquire and expensive, but possible nonetheless.

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I was looking into a ruger no.1 rifle and was having a tough time deciding on caliber, being that uncle sam is sending me to alaska I felt the safest bet would be to pick a caliber sufficient for the biggest predator out there and that should cover me as far as everyting else.

so with that being said what caliber would you choose.
Where are you going to be stationed? Generally, you're not going to find a polar bear south of the arctic circle, or beyond about 25 miles inland from the shore. Although, freak things do happen.

The coastal brown bears will grow to be MUCH bigger than the inland variety, arctic browns will probably get to the 400ish range.

Be mindful of the care of your weapon in arctic conditions. When I was up there... I used Remington's dry lube spray. Everything does strange things when the temps DROP.

Smaller calibers that shoot flat (as another has said) serve well... however... "some" of that mentality is "status". .17Rem is a popular round with some of the Natives... harvesting big game with that is about akin to driving a Yuppie Name Brand... "bragging rights".

I lived in Alaska for 14 winters (longest 36yrs of my life), 7 of those were in the arctic. For moose, I used my Remington 700 .30-06 with 220gr bullets with DRT single shots. My caribou gun was also a Remington 700 in .22-250. If I didn't have a rifle with me, or if I had the .22-250, I also had my Ruger Super Black Hawk .44mag. Never had the opportunity to take a brown bear... but, while fishing on the banks of the Russian River, I thought I was gonna have to shoot a black bear that was coming from one direction and a group of people from the other... converging on a point that was directly across the river from me. My warning hollers to them were taken as a "greeting" and they were smiling and waving back at me... until both... people and bear came face to face. Luckily the bear was just as spooked as they were and turned tail and ran in the opposite direction they were running. By then... I had a bead on the bear with the .44.
 
If I goto Alaska, I'm taking a Marlin Model 1895SBL (.45-70).
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If I goto Alaska, I'm taking a Marlin Model 1895SBL (.45-70).
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Yum... would love one of those. Again though.... depends on what part of Alaska. The reason I say is... in arctic/blizzard conditions and extreme cold temps... I don't know if I'd want that many moving parts that might ice up... or when it drops to -40 and below... all those small parts? Metal starts doing strange things.

I'm not saying a lever wouldn't do fine... I'm saying I'd want to do some homework first (for arctic conditions).
 
If it were me, I'd be going for a Barrett in .50 BMG. Not because I would actually need it, just sounds like a good excuse to get one.

I like your thinking there, I tiried to use the same logic for a revolver. I told my wife I should get a 500 smith revolver on the notion that you never know when a bear will break into the apt, unfortunately she didn't buy it.

If your not an Eskimo, you cannot hunt Polar Bear.

not true, checked up on it, it can be done but it is about a 3 year waiting list due to how few tags are given out every year.
 
I hate to break it to you, but Caribou knows his stuff. There are NO non-native polar bear hunts in Alaska or any other part of the USA. There's been a federal ban in place for many decades. It's part of the Marine Mammal Protection Act. Plus they're threatened now per the ESA. Polar bears are considered marine mammals like seals or sea lions. You will not be able to hunt polar bear in this state again, probably ever. So forget about a polar bear hunt.

Also if Uncle Sam is sending you here, do you know where? The bases are nowhere near polar bear territory. The good news is, there's a lot of other big game to hunt.

When did this take effect?

The early 1970's. The confusion comes because people don't know the difference between Canada and Alaska. Canada, still issues some sport hunting permits. Not sure about Greenland, Norway or the USSR.
 
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