Rifle Owners and the Renewal of the Assault Weapon Ban

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Would the bill not ban nearly every single semiauto rifle in the country or close to it?

Because of this:

A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.
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The first sentence there covers every surplus semi auto, and alot of civilian designed guns (for police). Also most other semi autos are based off generic designs of military semi autos...

This bill most definitely must die. I frankly think they intended for this bill to be a shocker, to get the "compromise" (read still an ??? rape) bill passed as "reasonable"...
 
YZGuy -

A personalized version of your well researched and documented correspondance has been sent to Mac Collins and Phil Gingrey of Georgia.

Phil is "my" representative, and I took the liberty of e-mailing Mac for Dad. I'm sure he won't mind :D

I went for Sanford Bishop the first time around as he will always be THE guy I remember as being personally responsible for the AWB's passing.

The tie-breaking vote, and from my HOME STATE! :banghead:

Well, here's hoping!

Thanks again for taking the time to share the words...
 
Ways to Contact your Elected Reps/Senators

Here are the URLs you can use to find out and USE the email addresses of your elected officials:

http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

I read the other writer's letter - I modified it a bit to suit my Representative, and my letter has already been sent. I did that before I complained to anyone on this board. I hope all of you that expressed shock and dismay have since taken the time to write and call your Congressman's office. The phone numbers are already listed here, too, for Hastert, DeLay, the White House, etc.

Just remember, be nice to the person answering the phone and keep your call limited to one subject.

:fire: :mad:
 
also, one more thing to add...

make sure you are very clear about them not supporting ANYTHING EVEN RESEMBLING an "assault weapons" ban. It has been suggested that this specific one may have just been introduced to die. So that a less restrictive one could pass because it is "not as bad". So my point is, go ahead and mention this one specific bill, but don't leave out the fact any other bill like it should be voted against as well.

Hopefully many representatives and elected officials will see many copies and versions of my letter :) .

I also think I may print a few up and put them in addressed envelopes to leave a few stacks at my local ranges. So people could just pick one up, sign it, put on a stamp and drop it in the mail.....
 
give the president a call about it!!

it only takes a few min, just call:
202-456-1414
tell the operator you want the comment line
then you will probably be on hold for a few min. When the operator answers they will ask your state, then your comment. Say something like:

I would like to strongly encourage the President to actively oppose any Assault Weapons ban legislation.

then say thank you, and that is all.... :) (took me 5 - 10 min)
 
It's NOT JUST AN EXTENSION OF THE CURRENT BAN as the anti-gun crowd claims. It goes further and bans MANY more guns than the original law.

If you value your right to keep and bear arms, then you MUST act and let your federal lawmakers know how you feel about this new law!
 
Don't worry, guys, the Republicans are in power to save the day! As long as they are in power, everything's cool! AHHHHAAAAAAHHAAAAAAAAHAAAAAA!!!
DAL

P.S. Never forget that a Republican is just another stinking politician who has a thirst for power. Ain't a one of them a friend of mine, a free, sentient being who pays his bills on time, is raising a family, holding down a job, and paying spirit-crushing taxes so the sick, lame, and lazy can survive and breed. Make sure they know EXACTLY where you stand on this issue via a phone call or a written letter. Forget the e-mails--this issue is too important for that.
 
Did any of you guys see (I can't remember whether it was House or Senate) bill 2038.... It does all the stuff that the ban you're talking about does AND sets the grandfather clause to 9/13/93. There is no way in **** that your "post bans" will be legal, and that aspect hasn't come up yet here.
 
that is the one we are talking about...

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.2038:


this part means that if was lawfull to own the gun before, it still is (just no new ones can be made):

`(B) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any firearm the possession or transfer of which would (but for this subparagraph) be unlawful by reason of this subsection, and which is otherwise lawfully possessed on the date of the enactment of this subparagraph.'.

I don't see anything referencing 9-13-93... I think you might be talking about this:

(2) by striking `on the date of the enactment of this subsection' and inserting `as of September 13, 1994'; and

which does not actually change anything, just states the date directly instead of leaving it up to figuring out when the "enactment" of this subsection was.
 
The day will come when none of our post-bans or pre-bans are legal anyhow.
The thing is, if we do things right, they will only be illegal for a little while.
I am actually kind of looking forward to an all out ban on all guns.
There are many who are willing to live with a little bit of oppression, but how many are willing to live with a whole lot of it?
Hunters are people who hunt. They sneak up on an animal and shoot it.
Would you want to be the guy who walked up to a man who does that for recreation and tell him he is gonna have to surrender his Winchester?
Not me!:eek:
 
THE M-1 CARBINE? THE M-1 ****ING CARBINE????? THE MINI-14????? OMG!!!!! THEY'RE LISTED BY NAME!!!!!:eek: :barf: I CAN GET EITHER OF THOSE IN THE PRK RIGHT NOW!!! THEY'RE GONNA BAN 'EM NATIONWIDE!!?!??!?:barf: :barf: :barf:
 
I just shot with a guy who only owns a marlin .30 and a bolt action 20ga. He inherited both from his father, and only shoots a couple times a year... Mostly deer hunting. The guy is a hell of a shot though, no problem shooting 6in steel plates at ~ 60yrds off hand. The way he groups though, I'm sure he could nail it at 100 no sweat.


I ain't gonna try and force his gun away :uhoh:

I'm sure there are tons of men out there who arent even remotely active in the firearms community, and maybe have never ever bought a gun (like my buddy, just handed down). Thats a large silent majority that i'm sure the ATF discounts, because they dont rack up much firearm purchases.
 
I just got a response from my Rep...

He first says thanks for writing, then says basically what the bill will do (like I don't know), then says that the bill is in the "House Committee on the Judiciary, on which I do not serve." then says "Rest assured, should I have the opportunity to vote on this issue in the future, I will certainly keep your views in mind." Then thanks me again....

notice how he never says what side he is on?!?!?! I even ask specifically in my letter/email to say what side they are on!!!
 
Words are meaningless. You can call the white house, you can call your representatives, you can send them letters. They'll reply with something to make it seem like its out of their hands, if they reply at all.

The Government won't listen because it dosen't have too.
Sure you may not vote for the person that voted for the renewal of the ban, but how many non-gun owners will? And do you think the other guy is going to be any different then the one thats in office now?

The Government will do what ever it wants. It will do it slowly so it won't attract the attention of the masses that are to preoccupied with their Jobs, sports and TV shows to care. As long as they get a pay check, get to cheer for their favorite team and watch reality shows. They'll let the government do what ever it wants.
 
The Government will do what ever it wants. It will do it slowly so it won't attract the attention of the masses that are to preoccupied with their Jobs, sports and TV shows to care. As long as they get a pay check, get to cheer for their favorite team and watch reality shows. They'll let the government do what ever it wants.

I hate to say it, but you are just about right.
The problem is that the average American simply doesn't care about anything that doesn't personally affect him.
Guns are just the start. They are nothing more than the visable target.
I don't hate gun control because it is stupid. I hate it because it is the first step in people control, and a very bad step for a country that is supposedly free.
 
Thufer and goon,
what so your answer is to give up? lie down and take it?!?!

I took the time to come up with a well written letter with valid points and references to prove them, posted it and sent it myself. I hope that many copies of it reach elected officials. What have you done to help me keep my gun rights?? If enough people make their voices heard, Politicians will listen, will you be one of those voices? or one of the quiet sheep?

I am not naive, I know very well it may not make a difference, but I'm damn sure going to try!!
 
yzguy and ShaiVong

I'm not suggesting that we give up trying. I'm suggesting that we need to do something more drastic then words before it is to late to do anything.

.223 probably won't stop a grizzle. But why use .223 when you could use .308, 30-06 etc.?
 
AKs, ARs and FN-FALs arn't for hunting deer and they don't make the best target rifles. The have only one good use...

If a man owns an FN-FAL and has it taken away from him by a man armed with a 9mm pistol. The man that owns the FN-FAL is an idiot or a coward.
 
yes but what if the man with the FAL could have used words earlier instead of bullets later, but instead waited until they came to get it to do ANYTHING. Does that make him more brave or more stupid?? or maybe just lazy?

oh, and by the way, one guy with 1 9mm will not be who comes to take it, if they come collecting guns there will be many of them, and I doubt they would be armed with just 9mm's..... (think shot guns, and M-16's and in armored cars)
 
I have already explained why words will fail.

What I'm getting at is that the man with the FAL should use it before they come to take it. Because, as you stated, it will to late to use it when they come to take it.

If you spend too much time trying to fix things with words that don't work. You'll lose your chance to try and fix things with bullets.

When you people say "Molon Labe", what you realy mean is "Molon Labe as long as no one gets hurt"
 
so then I ask again, what exactly are you suggesting??

don't bother trying to get your voice heard by speaking, but be silent and go shoot them now??

What I'm getting at is that the man with the FAL should use it before they come to take it. Because, as you stated, it will to late to use it when they come to take it.

If you spend too much time trying to fix things with words that don't work. You'll lose your chance to try and fix things with bullets.
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Please set me straight, and tell me that is not what you are saying....

also you said "If you spend too much time trying to fix things with words that don't work." so how much time have you spent on this? have you uttered one word to any of your elected officials?? I bet the anti's have....
 
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