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Rimfire at 100 yards?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by bowzette, Dec 16, 2010.

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  1. bowzette

    bowzette Member

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    for puching paper with an accutate rife at 100 yards will good quality .22 LR group well or would the .22 mag be better? I thinking of getting a CZ 455 or a Salvage Mark II series with a descent scope.
     
  2. highorder

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    .22lr will be fine, unless you feel like spending lots of money on .22 Mag ammo.

    In most cases, the .22lr will be more accurate, as there is match ammo available.
     
  3. GIJOEL

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    I think the .22 lr would be better for a few reasons.

    1.) More availability of target ammo
    2.) Generally speaking .22 lr is more accurate under 100 yards
    3.) Generally cheaper ammo (a buck is a buck right?)

    That's just my opinion, I have a CZ 452 and love it. It shoots under an inch at 100 yards with most CCI ammo, and with the right target ammo I can pick the staples off of my target on the first shot.
     
  4. True Grit

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    <Deleted start of thread drift> You can pick up a marlin bolt action .22 magnum for $200 or less if you do your home work, and if ammo price is a concern buy you some cheap CCI ammo. I've shot tons of it in mine and I've never had a problem. I would 10 times rather take my magnum out shooting than my long rifle.
     
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  5. PO2Hammer

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    I get more accuracy from the .22WMR at 100 yards than the .22lr, but I don't buy high end guns.
    My CZ .22WMR Lux is my most accurate rimfire, besting my 10/22 w/match trigger parts and my CZ Trainer and Scout.
    1" groups (rested) with 4X scope and several brands of ammo are the norm for my Lux. Even cheap Federal Champion will do 1-1/2".
    Love the maggie.
     
  6. UT PROSIM

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    I have a 10/22 that i picked up for 200 bucks last week. it is great at 100 yards, even with the stock barrel i was able to hit a 3" swing plate about every other shot. My buddy has one with a $80 A&B target barrel and can keep groups at about 1" at 100 yards.
     
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  7. x_wrench

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    i am not sure there is any money to be saved if you are buying 22lr MATCH AMMO! midway lists eley match ammo @ $13.79 for a box of 50, and cci maxi mags at $11.49 for a box of 50. now, unless my math is wrong, that is about a buck and a half more for match ammo than maxi-mags. my marlin 22 mag shoots best with them. i am sure other folks rifles have other favorites. anyway, my little marlin and i have no problem shooting bottle caps @ 75 yards.
     
  8. Lovesbeer99

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    I use my Henry H001 at 100 yards for plinking at cans and baseballs. I use my Marlin 2000 at 100 yards at an NRA target that simulates 300 yards and I can keep all my shots in the 10 ring from prone if I do my part with wolf match ammo.

    .22 is no problem for 100 yard accurate target shooting.
     
  9. Marlin 45 carbine

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    some years back I got a M60 Marlin in trade for some owed welding work bill.
    like a fool I sold it to a nephew at a good price due to his b-day.
    he took it completely down (he's maintanence at local college) for cleaning, tightening and such and added Simmons 4X glass.
    practices on walnuts @/50 yds offhand. any man sized target @/100 yds ain't got a chance.
     
  10. bayou28

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    If the price of ammo is not to big of a deal and accuracy is what you want look at a .17HMR. They shoot great out to 200yds. Ammo is about $12 for 50rds.
     
  11. Mr Bernoulli

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    I second the 17 hmr I have a marlin 917v thing is a tack driver literally! Dime groups at 100 yds and ammo just as much as 22 mag and its not really that bad. Not to mention it does a number on all sorts of varmints. Only one downfall to it is that there is a limited amount of ammo types, FMJ and the V-max only I think correct me if I am wrong. This is all I have come across when looking briefly on the internet and in stores. But those V-max are great! The 17 takes rimfire to a whole new level!
     
  12. Hunterdad

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    I got half dollar sized groups with my Savage Stainless 93BTVS in 22mag at 125yds.
     
  13. clem

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    The target is NOT mine, but it shows the potential with the rifle and round at 200 yds.

    Any questions?
     
  14. highorder

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    Nice shootin' clem!

    (are you sure that's not a clipboard and a jumbo novelty nickel?) ;)
     
  15. Karl Hungus

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    I can hit 2" x 4" chunks of angle iron at 200 yards with my modified 10/22 Target and CCI Green Tag pretty easily. Green Tag is not cheap though. About $15 / 100rnds.
     
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    My buddy and I shoot his Win. model 52 .22 w/scope quite often, it will peg them into 1" circle @ 100 yds quite often, using Federal ammo. Not sure which scope he has on it, nicest .22 I've ever shot.

    Shoot one of your chickens and hang it on a fence, then maybe the hawks will leave you alone.:neener:
     
  17. GambJoe

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    How do any of you get 100 yard moa from a 22 lr? Best I've got at 50 yards was 2". When I shoot at 100 that spreads out to 12". I blame the wind and my ammo. Can't be my marksmanship.:( Can it?
     
  18. Black Frog

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    17HMR is a great round, and incredibly fun to shoot.

    Inherently accurate for some reason, even the cheap rifles shoot well.

    Right now Dick's Sporting Goods has a sale going on... A Savage bull barrel with laminated thumb stock AND included mounts with scope for $299. That is a DEAL.

    I have that same gun, and a similar Marlin 17. Windy days can play hell with them tiny bullets, but on nice days both guns can keep 10 shots within an inch at 100yds.
     
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    I have a CZ 452 in 17mach II that i picked up last month... Finally got to take it to the range last week and was more than impressed... at 25 yds.... 1 hole groups... at 50 yds... 1 hole groups... out to one hundred (windy day) the groups opened up somewhat, but I do somewhat blame myself for that.... still managed to keep them under 3 inches but i have no doubt whatsoever that the gun is capable of 1 inch at 100 yds... I look forward to actually sitting down with my rest and seeing just what i can do with it... the most impressive part is that the gun is dead on from 25 yds to 100 with NO adjustment.
     
  20. Tim the student

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    .22 can be surprisingly precise at 100 yards with good ammo (and for me, a wind free day.)
     
  21. Dr.Rob

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    This is a really basic set up, Marlin 995, 1.5-4.5x Weaver scope, Federal Lightning bulk pack ammo. I wasn't really taking my time for this 100 yard group but that's still pretty good for a 30 year old pinned barrel semi auto.

    http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36391&d=1141242343

    That's certainly good enough accuracy to kill a prarie dog at 100 yards.

    I've shot tighter groups with a bull barrel 22 mag, and there is a range advantage BUT the cost of ammo is significantly different between .22LR and .22 WMR.

    See the results for a .17HMR here as well: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=186289&highlight=marlin+995
     
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    The generally accepted potential of a .22lr at 100y is 1in. By that, I mean every shot hitting a quarter on a calm day. This past May, I hit a 1in X-ring at 100y 20 straight times in a smallbore match.

    If you are good with the wind and have a capable rifle, you should have little problem keeping all you shots in a 2in circle (the 10 ring). Note that doing that will have you in the master class in a smallbore prone match.

    I don't have much experience with any .22lr other than Anschutz and other high end smallbore match rifles. But I know you are rediculously lucky to find ammo that groups 1in at 100y without spending an arm and a leg for it. My last ammo batch was $600 per 5000 rounds. And I only got away that cheap by testing a dozen lots of ammo in my gun and adjusting the bedding screw torque settings to tune the groups in.

    I've shot crap ammo at 100y that barely held a 3in circle and had flyers as far out as 6in. I guess the moral of my story is if you want to hit a quarter with true regularity (by my definition), you're going to have to work at it big time. I've been working at it for over 3/4 of my life and I don't have it down yet.
     
  23. Pigspitter

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    I can hit steel with my mostly factory 10/22 at 200 and i can get 2in groups with both the henry and the 10/22 at 100. Squirrels are tough, but it's not terribly difficult to hit them at 100.
     
  24. Onmilo

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    Black Frog is onto something with that .17HMR suggestion.
    While I don't have much use for them on the hunting fields, where they really do seem to shine is on the longer rimfire target ranges.

    I don't know if it is because it bucks the wind better than the .22 or it is just the flat shooting characteristics of the round but in a well tuned rifle the cartridge really does extremely well at 100-200 meters.
     
  25. kludge

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    The .22LR is falling pretty fast at 100 yards, even match ammo will open up to >1 MOA at that distance. My 5-shot groups (w/match ammo) run 0.3" to 0.4" on average at 50yd, and I have a few groups under 1/4", but I've yet to shoot a sub-MOA group at 100yd. Without wind the best I can manage from the bench and sandbags is ~1-1/4".,

    Accuracy of the .22 WMR and .17 HMR are much better at 100yd. It's not that the bullets buck the wind any better or have lower SD and ES, it's just that they get to the target twice as fast, so the effects don't show up yet.
     
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