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Riot stopper

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Oleg Volk, Aug 1, 2007.

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  1. Oleg Volk

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    That will work just fine and dandy!
     
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    It seems almost too wordy but I don't see what could be removed. It's a good poster nonetheless!
     
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    While you or I would be wearing electronic muffs in such a situation I don't think the undecideds will understand and be distracted by them.
     
  5. Oleg Volk

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    I have versions with and without the muffs. This one seemed the best image overall.

    Wordy? Yes, but also exact, I hope.
     
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    Very nicely done sir.
     
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    I'd like to see "the police" instead of "cops", but I know you are fighting for space.
     
  8. Oleg Volk

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    Exactly!
     
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    The image is compelling and the words are fine.

    I'm curious though: why the muffs?

    Even though I wear similar ones at the range,
    (unless those are electronic)
    I've wondered if I would put them on in such a situation.

    Seems like they'd retard one's ability to hear breaking and entering
    in another part of the house, let alone a stealthy invader.

    No?

    Nem
     
  10. Oleg Volk

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    Muffs:
    1) Protect your hearing: firing that 5.56 rifle would hammer your ears!
    2) Improve your hearing substantially with the amplification
     
  11. Harry Paget Flashman

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    Nice art work. But how about a poster with a young mother at the back door of her rental home carrying an extra 20 lbs or so from recent childbirth and some kind of firearm she can actually afford? It may not be a real popular poster but it would be one that many people could identify with. It may sway some of the "(sigh)...Hey, I wish that was me" crowd to the "Hey, that could be me" one.
     
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    Ah, so they are electronic. OK, I get it. Yeah, makes good sense.

    I'm just now beginning to explore electronic muffs. Still stuck in the stone age with the older ones. Will upgrade soon.

    Speaking of electronic muffs, here's a timely new thread.
     
  13. Oleg Volk

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    And that one is also in the works. Will have one with a 20ga pump or an SKS.
     
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    Thanks for the response. :)
     
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    Nicely Done

    For some reason the tan/beige tone on that rifle reduces the "harsh factor" of an all-black.

    I Like it.
     
  16. Oleg Volk

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    Beige camouflages the gun against the beige walls :D
     
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    Great image, very real. A+
     
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    I do not like the standing in front of a glass window peeping out the blinds. That' and the muffs don't get it for me. A night scene would be better as well.

    Of course, a tactically sound sneak and peek in a real world type scenerio would be too scary to the fence sitters we try to convince.......

    As usual the photography, colors and such are excellent Oleg. I sometimes wonder, from working with photographers in the past, if you formulate a concept and then shoot film, or if you shoot film and then formulate a concept to fit. This poster appears to be the later, and I think that is why it bothers me. Too many small inconsistencies like muffs, daylight, unsound tactics.
     
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    what, no aimpoint?

    :eek:

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    very nice, oleg!
     
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    Xavier ~

    During both the situations the poster refers to, looters and rioters were blatantly doing their thing in broad daylight. It's a very, very dangerous fallacy to believe that such events are only dangerous during hours of darkness.

    The muffs don't distract me at all and I think most folks probably would stand just about the way she's standing. She's not an uber-tactical ninja type, just a regular woman wanting to protect her family and worried about what's going on out the window.

    As usual, nice work Oleg!

    pax
     
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    What, no safety glasses??
     
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    Just a regular woman with a uber-tactical ninja type squirrel rifle, right? Or does a uber-tactical ninja type rifle mean you do not need tactics?

    Bad things also happen at night, and in both situations mentioned bad things happened a lot a night. For the message of the photograph, to a fence sitter, a night scene would read better, I believe. It would be graphically stronger, giving more contrast in the composition, and it would be a more universal image of fear and dread. It would certainly read as less paranoia than a brightly lit daylight scene. If you think I believe bad things only happen at night, you are mistaken Pax.

    Sorry to offend, just trying to give constructive criticism rather than blind adulation.
     
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    Consider shortening the introductory paragraph:

    "Los Angeles -- 1992
    Hurricane Katrina -- 2005

    During riots, police cannot protect everyone."

    You may want to shorten the conclusion, too: "Who protects yours?"


    Not all emergences are "urban" or involve "massive" unrest. Even the term "riot" may be too limiting, but "disorder" or "disturbance" or "unrest" don't quite work. I would suggest spelling out "cannot" -- it helps emphasize what the authorities canNOT do. (Wording is always subjective, of course.)
     
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    I like it.
     
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