gahunter, the 115/124 gr RN bullet samples were sent out today so you and 9mmepiphany should receive them by Saturday. Disclaimer: Following post lists loads not currently published by Alliant - Use them at your own risk. 40S&W 180 gr RNFP with Alliant BE-86: Recob's order for Alliant's new BE-86 and Bullseye was delivered earlier this week and I was anxious to finally try it out. Since BE-86 burn rate is around Unique, I thought 40S&W was a good caliber to test and compare to Herco 6.1 gr load I recently tested (I will continue my 9mm W231/HP-38, Titegroup, AutoComp and WST (for 9mmepiphany) load development and range test this weekend at 15/25 yards). I decided to continue using 1.155" OAL for the 180 gr TP RNFP bullet based on post #57 - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9639622#post9639622 Here's Alliant's load data for BE-86 - http://www.alliantpowder.com/reload...wderlist.aspx&type=1&powderid=38&cartridge=29 Since I am using longer 1.155" OAL than published 1.120", I decided to initially test 6.2 and 6.5 gr with the 180 gr TP RNFP bullets. .421" taper crimp was used and neck tension was tested by feeding/chambering finished rounds from the magazine and there was no bullet setback. Range Test: Glock 22 with factory barrel was used at 15 yards. Initially, I am quite impressed by Alliant's new BE-86. Although 15 yard shot groups weren't sub-one inch, the clustering of 3 shots (blue arrows) looks very promising. I look forward to conducting more range tests, especially at 25 yards.