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Road Rager shoots at motorcyclist - Triple digit Chase

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Rezin, Oct 17, 2006.

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  1. Rezin

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  2. nplant

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    That's one lucky guy. Both of them. Lucky for the rider that he didn't get hit or an accident occurred as a result of the blowout, and lucky for the shooter that the rider wasn't killed.

    Unfortunately, the defense will put up a bunch of smoke and try to show how the rider was clearly taunting the shooter by staying behind him all the time.

    With only the one half of the story, and the participants not personally known to me, I'm going to say that I hope the shooter gets his just deserts in prison, for a long long time.
     
  3. bender

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    happened 14 months ago... and still not in court...

    our justice system in action
     
  4. Aguila Blanca

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    150 MPH on a bike with a completely flat front tire? My BS meter is ringing so loud I can't even think ...
     
  5. cassandrasdaddy

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    hmmm

    who was mellissa? was he riding two up? the bs meter is off the scale
    i can barely control a bike with flat rear tire at 55
     
  6. moewadle

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    This shows how dangerous it can be interacting with

    other people out on the highway. I am not going to second guess what the victims of this abuse (the writer, Melissa, and his friend on the other bike)did in reaction to the BG but there certainly are dangerous people out there and it may behoove a driver to do as much as reasonably possible to de-escalate any possible negative interactions. Remember the case a few years ago that has never been solved. A man and his wife were on a freeway somewhere in USA and another driver got mad at them for some reason and shot at their car. It killed the woman and remains unsolved.
     
  7. nfl1990

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    +150mph w/ a flat and two people on the bike?
    And what was he doing taunting a guy who clearly had road rage with his (I guess) wife or gf on the bike? bad tactical descision, it would be even if you were alone, and in a car at least that would offer some protection from a pistol, ( I know it won't stop it but a car somwhat obscures your body and may cause a deflection, also on a motorcycle your body provides half the visible surface area)
     
  8. carterbeauford

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    He stated the assailant was in a Honda... most of which I believe are governed to 130MPH. I was not there and don't want to monday morning quarterback, but it should not be hard to outrun a Honda on a motorcyle, unless for some reason your motorcycle is really slow.
     
  9. bender

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    yeah, I used to ride big bikes back in the 1970s, 80s, and a few years in the 2000s...

    I wasn't aware you could ride fast with a flat front... or even at all...

    But I've never had to try... so I don't know.
     
  10. real_name

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    Nothing to see here, the whole matter is fiction.
     
  11. MartinBrody

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    Definitely Bravo Sierra, I say link this to a news report or lock it down.
     
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    A cbr929rr is sport bike and far, far more powerful than something like a harley or some such that the others may be commenting on. Keeping the bike upright at those speeds with a flat tire may be harder to believe, but who knows, I've never tried it and I'll take his word for it. The bikes do get more stable as speed increases. He says hit those speeds to get away from the shooter.
     
  13. cassandrasdaddy

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    great fiction

    he may have been shot at but i had quite a few street miles and road raced and i never knew anyone stay up with flat front at any speed and some who dumped it with flat back tire at highway speed
     
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    I'm sorry, but I just checked my BS meter and it looked at me and said "I won't even dignify that with a comment".

    I'm not saying that the incident didn't happen, but the perception under the heat of the moment may have been clouded. 150mph on a flat front tire is not likely. I've had 2 rear blowouts over the years (I currently am on my 13th bike) at highway speeds. Both times I basically had to drag my feet to maintain control and still dropped the bike on one of them. It would be hard enough to come to a controlled stop with a flat front, much less maintain 150mph.

    I'm kind of surprised that noone on the bike forum questioned this as well. Of course, I didn't read the whole thread.
     
  15. PythonFan

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    Clearly he was riding a wheelie and not using the front tire. Duh.
     
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    ^^^ HAHAHA , funny comment. i ve never had a front tire blown out on me and im glad it didnt. been riding for only less than 1 month and dont plan on that happening
     
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    150 with a flat front I can believe, the centripedal force would keep the tire inflated if the bike was traveling at a straight line. Slowing down would be the tricky part, at about 30 mph he'd probably be on the rim...

    atek3
     
  18. Still 2 Many Choices!?

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    No real constructive addition to the thread but...

    On Grand Theft Auto(the video game) you can go pretty fast with a flat front tire, but those sharp turns don't work so well:eek: :D .
     
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    Here's more to the story, I asked the guy regarding the front tire.

    (posted with his permission)

    "Yes, unfortunately I did ride 150+ (well into the 160's indicated) on a completely flat front tire. When your option is to run away or stop and watch some lunatic shoot your girlfriend and you, it's really the only option. Going slow wasn't an option either, since the guy was tailing me, following my lane changes... and I wasn't ready to have my girlfriend be shot in the back.

    The bike control was awful. Turning was nearly impossible and required a great deal of effort using both arms, and I had a death grip on the clip-ons just trying to hold it steady. Under accelleration, the front end is pretty light so it doesn't affect you too much, at cruising speed it's tough to do anything but go straight, and letting off the throttle is scary as hell. The handlebars and entire bike shake violently; I leaned back and applied as much rear brake as I could to lighten the load on the front tire, but it was still a lot of luck that kept us on two wheels.

    In summary, if you ever get the chance to run for your life on a bike with a flat front tire, I'd highly recommend passing on it."

    "The tire actually held up structurally. It's cupped really bad (looking at it from the side, the tread is about as smooth as a Ruffles potato chip from slappling the pavement). Thankfully the side walls on sport bike tires are as strong as they are... if I were on a Harley-type bike with soft sidewalls, I wouldn't be writing this today."
     
  20. dragongoddess

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    I don't ride bikes yet I have a hard time with this story. It's hard enough to believe when he was going straight but making turns. Sorry but Judge Judy would call this, BS. I would also have to agree that the story is a load of bull in the real world. In the make believe world of a video game anything is possible.



    No front tire
    making turn with 2 on board at speed
    all equal road rash and broken bones.
     
  21. Heavy Metal Hero

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    Ok he said keeping it at high speeds wasn't a big deal. But they were stopped and then he decided to go, at which point he was shot at. He wasn't going 100+ when it was hit. I don't know, it sounds kind of BS to me.
     
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    I got some swamp land...

    150+ on flat front tire? seriously? I have had my share of go fast bikes and cruisers. My latest go-fast was a Ninja 900 bored polished etc..would hit 150 in 4th gear. My front went flat at 90mph once. Got it down to about 45 before I dumped it. At 90mph the front was so out of control I was lucky to get down to 45mph.
    I'm not saying the guy is lying because I have seen alot of things happen on bikes but he definitely wasn't turning or anything on a flat front tire. No way.
     
  23. gunsmith

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    he could have been guessing at the speed

    it's hard to keep an eye on the speedometer and drive in excess
    of 100, I've gone over 100 in thick traffic & had to keep my eyes on the road.
     
  24. fasternyou929

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    I just wanted to stop by and say thank you nplant, bender, razorburn, and others for your support.

    For those with their BS alarms going off, well, I don't much blame you. If I hadn't been there, hadn't been lucky enough to survive it, I'd be tempted to call BS too. I can tell you though, when you're unarmed and being shot at you only know one speed... wide open. I couldn't put enough distance between us and him fast enough.

    Some people have mentioned that it could be done in a straight line, but the turns would be impossible. They're absolutely right... I tried to take the first exit after he shot at me and I couldn't even make the required 4 lane changes in time. The turns I was talking about in the post made on my behalf by jlbraun were 2 turns at intersections (I'd never been so grateful to live in Florida, where they only make perfectly straight roads). The turns I *did* survive were both at about 3mph, with both feet on the ground, hoping that I could turn sharp enough not to head out into the weeds off the shoulder of the road.

    Anyway, thank you again to those of you that offer your support and sympathy. It's tough when you barely survive a situation and are called a liar when you share your story, but that's the nature of the internet, I suppose.
     
  25. Inline_6

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    Good luck in court Monday. I have seen firsthand how crazy South FL drivers are, but haven't been shot at (yet). Hope he gets convicted!
     
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