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rock river and bushmaster?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by gringolet, Jul 14, 2006.

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  1. gringolet

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    I am wanting a good quality knock-around carbine...16 inch maximum length barrel AR...one that I can throw in truck or under a cover in the trunk and bounce around for months after a good cleaing and lubing
    and that will shoot well (near minute of angle) as well as feed and function with 100% reliabilty and is fairly light and quick to handle...for such a purpose..what is most recommended? is bushmaster satisfactory or is extra money for rock river or other make preferable? I cannot personally see much advantage in rock river over bushmaster, but may be ignorant of the facts..thanks for your input...
     
  2. DMK

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    I'd buy the Bushmaster just because they make a nicer chrome-molly barrel. They use better steel and it's chromed lined.

    Although, RRA does offer chrome lined as an option now. I have one and it's a good barrel too, just not as common yet.

    Other than that either will work fine. Bushmaster might have slightly better quality control, but I've never had any problems with anything from RRA or Bushmaster. Usually, Bushmasters are more expensive than RRA. They probably have a slightly better resale value too.
     
  3. dcloudy777@aol.com

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    Might wanna take a look at Stag Arms. All of there barrels are chrome-lined, lifetime warranty, all that jazz. They come in at a nice price point, usually a little lower that Bushy or RRA, and are as high quality as anything I've seen. Worth checking out anyway, I've sold several and my customers love them. Just my $1/50...

    DanO
     
  4. el44vaquero

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    I 2nd that on Stag. I have two currently and love them.
     
  5. Correia

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    They are all good.

    One note though, beware just chucking your rifle in your truck for months at a time. Especially if it is in any sort of place that has humidity or moisture. This includes sitting near a heater vent. We've had to fix more than a few customer's guns because they've left them behind the seat of a truck for months at a time, and you start to get rust on the internals and inside things like your extractor and ejector.
     
  6. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    The "fairly light and quick to handle" might be an issue with RRA. All RRA rifles come with a heavy barrel. They don't offer anything with a "government profile" or any other lighter profile. I love my RRA and find it handy enough, but I'm also 6'3". Others of smaller stature find it gets a little barrel heavy after a few mags.
     
  7. RomanKnight

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    ADCO Firearms will turn your barrel to whatever profile you desire, or have it fluted -and do a very good job at it!
     
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    *cough* *cough*
     
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    You can put a 16" CAR together for 470+stripped lower if you go with Model 1 sales. That's the chrome lined barrel price.

    If you want they can turn a barrel to a minimum profile. A friend had a 14" turned and a flash hider welded on to be the legal minimum. Extremely light gun and shoots very well. You might have seen it in Olegs photos, it has pink furniture.
     
  10. MechAg94

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    If you want something to throw in the truck, wouldn't a levergun be better suited to that?
     
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  12. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    The R4 barrel has the "grenade launcher notch", but it is still a heavy barrel. As you can see in this picture, the barrel is definately heavy under the handguards. On the other hand, Bushmaster offers this barrel which is lighter under the handguards. I supposed one could say that the notch made it slightly lighter and therefore claim that RRA does indeed offer a lighter profile; however, being heavy under the handguards would still place in it the heavy barrel category for most folks, including RRA who sells it as a heavy barrel assembly.

    As others have said, it is possible to have someone turn the barrels down for you after the fact.
     
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    Aint that the way it goes. You give two choices and get 40 suggestion other than the original 2.
    Any way I went with the Bushmaster for the reasons cited in the first reply post. Chrome lined barrel and chamber means twice as much shootin as a non chrome lined. Don't really care about resale value. It ain't for sale.
    Oh Yeah I forgot to mention. After last weekend the round count was 25000 without Any jams misfires or any kind of problem. I keep it clean an properly lubed and shoot as much as I want when I want.
     
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    Man 25000 rds of 223! You must be rich! Must be nice!
     
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    "Man 25000 rds of 223! You must be rich! Must be nice"

    I load my own own on a Dillon.
     
  16. gringolet

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    thanks

    I will check out the stag items and am leaning toward the bushmaster the chrome barrel lining sounds like a good thing (ala russian ak-style)...
    hey, I do keep a lever gun in the truck..right next to my new AR! hahahaha!
    Actually, I have carried the stainless mini 14 and find no real fault with the thing..the Ar is more accurate as a rule and permits more accessory goodies, etc..but my stainless mini has done a yoeman's job just bouncing around in the truck in its assault case and still shoots well and has never, ever jammed...but am wanting a good quality AR for a change of pace and to learn that weapons system. thanks for all the good information.
     
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    The 3 RRA that I own are all chrome lined. This was included in the price from here. Good people. Eagle Firearms
     
  18. Wes Janson

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    This has me completely confused.

    I'm looking to get an RRA, with the following desires:

    16" barrel, preferably chrome-lined (depending on price)
    CAR stock
    midlength handguard

    The catch is this: I'd like an upper on it that A: has iron sights, B: can mount a scope on top, C: can mount a Dominator/Dominator2. I've used the Dominator/EOTech configuration before on a Colt A4, and I found it really nice. But I'd also like to be able to pull it off when necessary and mount a scope for long distance (100-600 yards) practice.

    Is the Elite CAR A4 with Dominator what I want to get? And where can I find one for a good price, that can actually ship it to me sometime this year?

    Is this what I want to buy?
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=52381674

    Someone with knowledge please help me! ;) Thanks!
     
  19. beerslurpy

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    Are you sure you want to subject an expensive and finely tuned rifle to the hazards of being left in a truck?

    Rust
    Theft
    Knocks and Dings
    Harsh Knocks

    Get an SKS or a lever gun.
     
  20. rangerruck

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    I must admit i like bushies for two reasons, their carbon 15's are sooo light... their bbl testing is as good as it gets.
     
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    I agree with beerslurpy, get a cheap sks to get beat up in the trunk. I've spent too much money on my AR to treat it like that.
     
  22. Gary G23

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    A chrome lined barrel is a necessity for a truck gun. I'd get a CMMG, Stag Arms, or Bushmaster.
     
  23. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Both are good manufacturers; buy from a dealer that will stand behind what they sell, has the options you want, and you won't go wrong with either brand.

    I favor the RRA a bit; because I really think the midlength gas system is the heat for the 16" barrel carbines. Better sight radius, smoother recoil, lower operating pressures, and less hot barrel to brand yourself with when training.
     
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