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Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by Jigman21, Nov 3, 2014.

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  1. Jigman21

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    I have looked every where for assembly instructions or a schematic to assemble this little .22 and am looking for help,:banghead::banghead::banghead::cuss:
    Someone surely has some info.
    Thanks
     
  2. WestKentucky

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    Have you looked for an exploded drawing? Numrich usually has drawings on the guns once you get to the specific models. Otherwise find a very similar RG gun and go from there. YOUTUBE is a wealth of how-tos but be careful that you don't find one some crackpot put up that damages anything. What exactly are you trying to do with the gun?
     
  3. rcmodel

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    You might be better off in the long run leaving it apart!
    It was a cheap pot-metal Saturday Night Special at best.

    And unsafe to shoot at worst.

    Rc
     
  4. WestKentucky

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    In 22lr they SHOULD but not always are safe. If you assemble it check timing and lockup closely...and shoot a box of shorts before you try out stingers or minimags.
     
  5. 1911Tuner

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    I wouldn't shoot one of those things on a bet.
     
  6. WestKentucky

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    Again...if the gun checks out safe then it's safe. DO NOT BASE YOUR COMMENTS ON ANYTHING BUT THE GUN IN QUESTION. A truly remarkable gun may be mistreated and be unsafe but some folks around here basically say "ah hell it's a ruger it's good" but then turn around and say "that thing is a RG so it's gotta be junk" not so my friends. True RG is of lower quality materials and often manufacture, but that simply does not make them unsafe. The gun not locking up, being in time, having visible damage does make it unsafe. So please keep your "expert" opinions on matters like this in line with the facts
     
  7. rcmodel

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    I was.
    And I can't speak for Tuner, but I think he was too!

    rc
     
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    i have a RG38 (branded as a Burgo) which was one of the notorious Saturday night Specials imported into the US in the middle and late sixties. Timing is good, accuracy is surprisingly good, and lockup is fine. That being said, I fire a cylinder once in a blue moon in it because versus a similar S&W or Colt, the materials and workmanship are simply not comparable for regular sustained use. Would I use it if that was all I had? As a poor graduate student living in not so safe student slums, that was all that I had and all that I could afford at that time.

    As West Kentucky says, the major issue is making sure to check out your weapons prior to shooting. Even the name brand ones can exhibit problems. But, ulitimately, the RG10 was never designed to hold up to sustained use nor was intended to be someone's heirloom--it was mainly manufactured to fulfill the first rule of a gunfight which is to actually have a gun. You can see a similar pattern (no offense to those who collect them) in turn of the century Brand X breakopen .22 and .32 revolvers and the like. They were designed to give people with little money some solace in having a gun for self defense in an emergency.

    BTW, you can also find some parts or even an instruction manual from EvilBay or Gunbroker periodically. Good luck with your restoration.
     
  9. WestKentucky

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    RC that wasn't aimed your way...I guess it swept you as it landed on Tuner. Your comment was in line as it gave reason and basically said it is possible but not likely safe. Tuners comment did not do that, it was simply one of the heavily repeated X brand is junk posts that plague a lot of decent guns like taurus revolvers, smith autos (VE guns especially).

    Before I get a nastygram I will get right back on topic. The only way to know if the gun is safe is to assemble it and check it out. What is the current state? Pictures will help. Is it no 2 pieces together or is the cylinder off of the crane? Assemble, inspect, disposition.
     
  10. rcmodel

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    I spent some time in my misspent youth repairing brand new RG's still in the box so my friend a dealer could get them working long enough to sell them in his shop.

    Every shipment of new ones had a few so bad they wouldn't work right out of the smelly packing grease!

    That's the extent of my 'expertise' on them!
    I wouldn't take one if somebody tried to give me one.

    rc
     
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    Sorry if it offended your sensibilities, but that comment wasn't meant to be funny and it wasn't made lightly. I know people personally who have been hurt by firing new ones. A few others dodged a bullet...no pun intended...and got off with with a scare.

    The barrel is no more than a mild steel tube with a zinc shroud pressed over it and pinned in place. Remove the pin, and you can pull the barrel out of the frame by hand. I've seen B/C gaps that measured .030 inch. Just a little out of time, and they shave a sizeable chunk of lead off the bullet and spit it out of that gap. I've seen chambers completely split lengthwise after just a few rounds.

    I know that there have been Rohm RGs that were safe to fire. I've seen a few myself...but the percentage that weren't, even when new, is too high for me to do anything except warn people away.
     
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    Just because it is an RG do not think they will not shoot. My first .38 was an RG38 4' blue. My wife and I shot it for three years averaging 300+ rounds weekly. I never had a problem with that revolver. I finally sold it and bought a Ruger Security Six.
     
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    My first handgun, ca 1965. What did I know? RG 22 in .22 short. Less than 200 rounds fired through it over the decades since.

    Took it out a couple of months ago just for grins (mainly because I had found some .22 short ammo). It broke. No personal harm done. Black lines point out cracks in frame.

    To be fair, I should mention that I tried to hard-chrome plate it at one point, and it's possible but not likely that the frame's metal could have been affected by hydrogen embrittlement in the plating process.
     

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    I had one many moons ago, before I knew better. It shot as much lead out the sides as it did the barrel. The front sight was attached to a band that holds the ejector rod spring, that thing would loosen and slip off the end. The sight was always leaning to one side or the other as this band would not stay tight. A total piece of crap.
     
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    Heh, speaking of Rohms...I just remembered a story from my misspent youth days. I had a RG-14 and the barrel was soooo worn or just way far out of spec that a 22LR fired from it would not penetrate a windshield from a couple of feet away. It's amazing how much of a difference a quality barrel makes. I remember the same with a 25 ACP back in the day.
     
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    I was given an old RG38, sold it for what it cost new.... $50:D
     
  17. Jim K

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    I really have to wonder how many RG-10's WestKentucky has owned or used.

    Like RC, I spent a lot of time trying to repair those guns when I worked for a dealer who didn't believe in sending back defective guns. Certainly, one would not condemn all S&W's or Colts or Rugers because of one lemon, but the whole RG product line was made to sell around or under $10 retail. The shop paid $6, and I was once told the distributor paid $3 so I suspect the manufacturing cost was under a dollar, if that.

    Sorry, but those guns were poorly made of inferior materials, and wholly unreliable. I had barrel liners come out, loading gates blow off, hammers and triggers break, frames crack, etc., and that was just from firing a few rounds.

    Yes, I am sure that some worked OK, at least for a while, but there is no way one is worth repairing or wasting time on.

    Jim
     
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    Wonder no more. I owned 2 in years past. One went to a friend who was moving away and was unsure of the city he was going to (cincinatti) and the other traded away for a marlin model 60. I have extensive experience with an rg38 that dad bought new when he graduated high school...and a 32swl that my grandmother carried in her purse.

    Don't get me wrong, I do not think they are a great gun or anything of the sort, BUT I have not seen many that have survived this long that would qualify as dangerous based on design. The junk ones whittled them self down pretty quick.

    They may not be pretty, they may not be very accurate, they may not be valuable, but none of that makes them unsafe. What does make one unsafe are things that would not have let the gun survive the 30 years or so that it's been around.

    Assemble, inspect, disposition. If deemed safe, shoot a cylinder full of full power rounds with a rope and start the process over st the inspect stage until comfortable that it won't blow your hand off...because at that point you have proven that it wont.
     
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    And there you go then!

    The OP's RG is in pieces in a bag or box.
    And he ask for help putting it back together.

    So, could it be his has already 'whittled itself down pretty quick'???

    If it's apart in a Junk box or plastic bag?

    There must be a good reason it wasn't 'One of the Good Ones', and still being shot?

    rc
     
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    I'm really-REALLY-cheap about a lot of things.

    But things that contain hand-held explosions aren't one of them. There's a minimum floor of quality for a firearm that should be met, and RG's don't meet it.

    I once went to a suicide where a fellow had shot himself TWICE with a .38 RG. The barrel-cylinder gap was apparently sufficient to render the 158 RNL round nearly powerless, resulting in the first round embedding itself in the roof of his mouth.

    The second round-yep, dude had to shoot himself in the mouth TWICE-finally did him in.

    I'll second, or third, the opinion that some risks aren't worth taking.

    Larry
     
  21. 4v50 Gary

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    If it's the single action gun I'm thinking of, it disassembles like a Colt. However, it does have a safety which is frame mounted.
     
  22. 230RN
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    Copy some text from this thread, and hand the gun back to the guy with the printout and a suggestion to take a big hammer to the frame.

    If you "fix" it and something goes bad in the future, guess who's to blame (read "liable")?

    Terry
     
  23. WestKentucky

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    RC, I share that concern but again, if it assembles and checks out as safe then it is safe. If it assembles and is out of time then it's junk. By assembling and inspecting there is no expense and no potential loss at all. If it is deemed junk at that point it should be truly destroyed, but even so no expense, no harm done. This is a win-win situation. You either determine you have a shoot able gun or you completely remove potential for it to be used. There is zero risk up to the point of firing the weapon, only reward. Would you guys throw away a free lottery ticket because you PROBABLY won't win or would you scratch it off and hope to get a little ammo money?
     
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    Jigman21, how you plannin' to X-Ray or magnaflux the frame, good timing, etc. notwithstanding? :rolleyes:

    Terry
     
  25. Jim K

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    "There is zero risk up to the point of firing the weapon, only reward."

    Reminds me a bit of the guy who said that jumping out of a plane at 10,000 feet without a parachute was perfectly safe. It only became dangerous when hitting the ground.

    Jim
     
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