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Romney on guns...

Discussion in 'Activism' started by NelsErik, Jan 18, 2012.

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  1. NelsErik

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    He signed a permanent AWB in Massachusetts. 100% an enemy of the 2A there is no amount of flip-flopping that's going to change that. He's a "lifetime" hunter that has been hunting twice and thinks the 2A is for hunting:scrutiny:
     
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    According to Windows, this is a bad feed. Stay away from it. Do not down load the link.
     
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    I'm on an apple and have no problems...
     
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    Ladies and gentlemen--let me introduce the next Republican nominee for POTUS.

    :banghead:
     
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    In case you can't download the file. Romney really scares me when it comes to understanding the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment.
     

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    From everything I've seen Romney is the worst republican candidate as far as RKBA(and on every other issue).

    If anything he is actually worse than Obama, Obama wants to reinstate the AWB but he can't seem to get it done. Romney managed to get it done in MA and its permanent there.
     
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    ANYONE that gets elected isn't going anywhere near the gun issue.

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    I was working on business in Mass last year. I went into a sporting goods store at lunch to buy powder, bullets, primers, and brass.

    Apparently, you need to live in Mass and have a special license to buy ammo and ammo components.......consequenctly, no sale was made to me.....

    Yikes, that is riduculous.....

    Mitt said in the debate on Monday that the bill he signed into law in Mass, was negoitiated and the NRA fully supported it....... Really?
     
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    What were the provisions of any firearms laws that Romney signed into law while he was governor of Mass? What laws had been passed prior to his term in office?
     
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    What airforceshooter said, for the first 4 years, after that in the last 4 the gloves will be off whoever is the President. Then the true feelings will be out and about.
     
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    I agree he is the worst republican candidate for rkba. His responses to gun questions have always sounded forced and rehearsed. (Including Juan Williams' question in the last debate as to how many times he has been hunting since 2007.) I don't think he's 100% an enemy of rkba. Carolyn McCarthy is a 100% enemy. Don't use hyperbole to make things sound worse than they are.

    Having said that, I really don't think he is a direct threat for any new gun legislation. He won't stack the courts against us or fill BATFE with the worst people possible like the current administration will. I will absolutely back him rather than allow four more years of Obama Court Nomination Roulette. He made some bad decisions, but he did them many years ago, when it was still perceived that you could snub the gun lobby and ignore the consequences. No one believes that anymore. He may well be a 'born again gun person', but as long as there is a reasonable likelihood he stays that way, I won't try to stop him.

    Gentlemen, the perfect candidate doesn't exist.
     
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    The perfect candidate does not exist..... Try voting for the most perfect in the primaries at least, instead of voting for Romney as the "One who can beat obama" candidate.

    Vote Someone who would actually prefer liberty over perceived safety... vote Ron Paul.
     
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    RBKA? Right below the knee amputation?
     
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    After reading the background, I would have to conclude that Mitt will say anything to anybody if it helps him get elected..... he is a dangerous liberal gun grabber in my book...
     
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    If this is true, he will also say or do anything to get RE-elected. Which means toeing the NRA line. I don't think he's a dangerous liberal gun grabber. I think he's an ambivalent inconsistent gun neglecter. He's a 'C', not an 'F'. Again, Carolyn McCarthy is an 'F'. (I give Obama a 'D'. He has 'F' aspirations, but he held off on pursuing them.)

    Look at it this way. Even if Ron Paul is every bit as noble as you think he is, it's not like he can come into office and just penstroke everything he wants to. He has a limited amount of executive authority and political capital, just like Obama does. He can re-staff BATFE, veto new gun laws, and pick good court nominations. There is probably little discernible difference between what Romney will be forced to do, and what Ron Paul is actually ABLE to do in the same situation as far as RKBA is concerned. It is absolutely ABSURD to do anything to risk letting Obama get re-elected because you want the 90% candidate instead of the 80% one. And I think if Ron Paul was so absolutely principled as people seem to think he is, he wouldn't have run as a republican for congress, he would have stayed libertarian. So why did he switch? Because he understands perfectly well that you have ZERO influence if you don't win.
     
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    Right to Keep and Bear Arms.... or bare arms if anyone else found the cutoff shirt at Scheels.
     
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    Putting faith in a generic Republican to be pro-2A is absolutely ridiculous. Faith in anything coming from Romney being Pro-2A is even more ridiculous.

    Maybe the RKBA community needs a kick in the pants if they feel a candidate like Romney is acceptable. 4 years of Obama didn't do it. Maybe it'll take another 4???
     
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    Interesting post mljdeckard... to bad it is factually incorrect...

    Ron Paul was Republican before he was a Libertarian... If you listen to his resignation speech from the Republican Party he stated all the problems that he saw in the Republican Party and that he could not continue due to his principles. He later stated that his presidential campaign wasn't about being a Libertarian or a Republican or even about becoming the POTUS. It was about getting his message out, not winning.... Almost immediately after the election he switched back and continued his medical practice...

    The point of my post was not promote anyone though, it was to help people understand what the various candidates actually believe and to show an actual documented history of Romney's various positions on the 2nd Amendment and gun control. There are other candidates who have a much, much better record when it comes to the RBKA.
     
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    I said Romney was the worst. I just think it's completely unfair to characterize him as the worst possible option, when he is far better than the current administration.

    So.....Ron Paul is apparently just as flexible according to the circumstances as.....EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN. He is not the Messiah. He's a politician just like any other. He is a republican now because he couldn't keep his congress seat if he switched back libertarian. He is as republican as he needs to be to keep his seat.
     
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    But he's not Lautenberg or McCarthy. Bad? Ok. Worst? Far from it.
     
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    Does bad have to be worst???

    Bad=Bad.

    You don't have to be a math expert to understand that equation.
     
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    What kind of person would lie about owning a firearm or hunting?

    Yuk, even president Obama would not do that; right?

    Romney does not seem to have ANY real convictions - only current positions which seem to be conceived for one purpose, - to garner votes.

    Frankly, he scares me because I cannot trust him.
     
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    I don't understand Romney's appeal. I really don't. He wasn't good enough to beat McCain, who wasn't good enough to beat Obama the first time.

    What in the heck makes anyone think he is good enough now? There seems to be very little real enthusiasm for him as a candidate. The (R) voting block seems sleepy. Obama is still popular in spite of the many complaints.

    Voting for Romney is a lose-lose situation. Either way, get a President who is passive at best on 2A issues, and at worst is supportive of gun control.
     
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