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Ron Paul and guns?

Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by Super Sneaky Steve, Oct 13, 2011.

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  1. Super Sneaky Steve

    Super Sneaky Steve Member

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    One of the mods suggested that I should start a Ron Paul discussion on gun rights. So here it is!

    I think my guns are safe with President Paul. I know they have a strict policy here of only talking about guns but if you guys want to know more about Paul's positions dailypaul.com is a good source.
     
  2. MtnCreek

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    Anyone that sees no problem with America’s enemies obtaining Nuclear Weapons is sure to allow you to keep your firearms.
     
  3. Mike1234567

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    There's nothing not to like about Ron Paul. That's for certain. I'm voting for him this round regardless of whether or not I think he has a chance of winning. I'm darned sick-and-tired of "selling out" my vote to support a substandard candidate because I think he/she is the lesser of two evils.
     
  4. Tallinar

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    +1!
     
  5. Sky

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    It is either Paul or Newt IMO. Paul because of his 35 years of staying on point and Newt because he has experience in the halls of government. Paul will not allow anyone or thing to infringe upon the Constitution.

    The whole part of Paul's statement about Iran and nukes or nukes for anyone else needs to be considered in the whole context of his platform and then it starts to make more sense.

    Complicated things can not always be covered in 30 seconds especially if you know during the debate that will be your only chance to speak.

    I doubt that any President has the power to shut down 900 overseas bases unless the legislature agrees.
     
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  6. The-Reaver

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    He's got my vote.
     
  7. Owen Sparks

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    Just Google Ron Paul and gun control to find out why he is the best 2A candidate ever. He has written extensively on the topic.
     
  8. stumpers

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    If the Constitution is important to you, Ron Paul should be your candidate. No one else past or present comes close. This is especially true with Rep. Paul and the Second Amendment, which I know is important to everyone here, but equally as true with other issues that are just as important that have answers that can be found in the Constitution.
     
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    Does Paul have any chance of being the GOP candidate or is he "too extreme"? I love his position on many issues but unfortunately it's still a 2 party system and as much as I'd like a libertarian president I don't see it happening in the near future. Even though most rebublicans and quite a few democrats would probably realize their views fall in line closest with libertarians since few folks really ride the party line on all issues.
     
  10. WardenWolf

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    In all fairness, his chances of getting elected President are smaller than a snowball's chance in hell. Everybody thinks he doesn't have a clue and isn't in touch with reality. He couldn't win against Obama or virtually anyone else.
     
  11. B_Li_Ber_Tar_Ian

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    A small compilation of Dr Paul's writings can be found here...
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html

    I'm glad to see many on this board stand behind Dr Paul and the message of Liberty.

    I can't say I'm surprised, though!
     
  12. lobo9er

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    Ron Pauls got it right
     
  13. kozak6

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    Ron Paul is the most pro-gun candidate in the race.

    There's no possible way he will win, though.
     
  14. B_Li_Ber_Tar_Ian

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    It'll be tough with 99.9999% of Washington ( R's & D's) and Wall Street against him.

    Then again, all 23 of ESPN's baseball "experts" picked the Phillies to beat the Redbirds.

    That's why they play the game.
     
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    He is a libertarian's libertarian, and he is so strong and so principled, and he always believes that it's better to vote libertarian and lose then vote for a republican...which is why he didn't run as one to get his current office.
     
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    So that means you all are voting in the primaries? If everybody waits until November, all we have to choose from is Obama and Romney.
     
  17. Sky

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    There is still a possibility that if he does not get the Republican nomination he will run as an independent or Libertarian. If he does and splits the vote (Ross Perot) then it may not be pretty for those who would rather see someone else in the white house.

    A Crystal ball that works would be nice.

    Equal time for all in a debate would be nice too.

    But, it is still a ways off and some of his message is getting out so anything can happen. Funny, this election I trust the bottom three more than I do the top three. Guess that is why I own the American Classic ll....seems like the older I get the more I go against the grain??
     
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    I had to perform a lot of cleanup to reopen this thread.

    If you want to discuss something other than Ron Paul's position on the 2A (which we all know already) don't post.
     
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    1) It's not a "two party system", it just seems that way.

    And,

    2) Ron Paul is a Republican.
     
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    Ron Paul is a great candidate. He is easily the best candidate with regards to the 2nd amendment. Sadly, I don't think he can win. I think he would be a great president and I would trust him with the 2nd amendment more than any other candidate. If you want Ron Paul in the general election, don't just talk about it, vote in the primaries of you're a registered republican. If his poll #s increased it might get his message out and I think if his message was heard people would support him, and that would be good for the 2A.
     
  21. Super Sneaky Steve

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    You guys who say he can't win need to stop watching the talking heads on TV. Who won the California straw poll? Who won value voters poll? Who just won the Ohio poll? Who won the CPAC poll?

    RP has more individual doners than anyone, it's just that big banks dont' back him. The people do. His largest doners are the Air Force, the Navy and the Army.

    Pro 2A people love him and he's got a great chance. With a solid 3rd place nationally and with the Cain scandal breaking it looks like he's going to be 2nd real soon and eventually first.
     
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    How many other top tier contenders for the Presidency have ever had the cojones to come out and flatly state that the prime reason for the right to keep and bear arms is to protect ourselves from tyrannical government? How many have stated that 9/11 only happened because of our lack of support for the Second Amendment in not allowing airlines to arm their crew? I'm not aware of anyone else. All the other guys just see the 2A as a talking point to score points with certain demographics, and they just throw out a few pro-gun soundbytes here and there to throw us "gun guys" a bone. Dr. Paul on the other hand actually has a principled stance on this issue and has held firm on it since he first got elected to the US House back in 1974.

    The trouble is, he is such a humble guy... he hates to brag on himself, but he really needs to. People need to know this stuff, like how every quarter this year he has consistently gotten more donations from active duty military than all the other candidates combined. People think his foreign policy is off kilter? Well how come his biggest support comes from the people who are at the pointy end of our foreign policy and are in the best position to see what its consequences truly are?

    Not electable? You do realize that a huge margin of Independent voters are very fed up with Obama, as are many anti-war and pro-civil liberties Democrats, who are hoping for ANYONE they can feel good about voting for? Ron Paul has always attracted the independent vote like no other GOP candidate has, and they are the ones who swing elections. And it wouldn't take that many defecting Democrats at all to really nail Obama's coffin shut.

    Who I think is unelectable are the big-gov't neo-cons and RINOs. I know lots of people want Obama gone, but I have talked to a lot of other Republicans who are flatly refusing to vote for another RINO just because they look like the lesser of two evils. And you can forget about getting the independent vote or the Democrat vote.
     
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    Everytime you vote for Candidates like McCain in hopes that he has a better chance of winning versus Obama over people like Paul and Cain, you are basically saying "Hey GOP, I want a guy like McCain."

    I'm 28 and am already sick of selling out my vote to Bush/McCain types over real, true Representatives of my own views. I will not vote for anyone but the true person I'd like to represent ME, regardless of how poorly he fares against Obama and the Dems.
     
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    I get the impression that Ron Paul gets it regarding guns. Too many "pro-gun" candidates come out with statements like "we need to protect the rights of our hunters and target shooters" and just don't understand why the RKBA is a basic human right.
     
  25. Sky

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    Seems like the same old thing year after election year just different labels of the same stuff that has gotten us to where we are today. 2a, appoint a Supreme Court nominee who believes in the constitution, get rid of redundant agencies and balance the budget...Yep he is crazy.

    If he does win there will be screaming like a stuck pig from those who know better than that old piece of paper the country was founded upon.
     
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