Rossi snub, yet another buy this or not thread

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lee n. field

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I looked at a new Rossi snub this past Saturday. Looked decent, has hammer mounted firing pin (one reason I'm not looking at Taurus -- my last Taurus had a tendency to eat firing pin springs). I did not catch the model, but I think this was a 351 -- .38, 5 shot, blue.

Anybody have experience with this? Good gun?
 
I have a 462 (.357 snub). It's nice and I like it. Haven't had any issues with it.

Taurus/Rossi opinions run hot and cold (as I'm sure you're about to learn in this thread). For my part, I think they're pretty good for the money.


-T.
 
I would get a Ruger or a Smith. A good used Ruger or Smith is better than a new Rossi.

Again my question: How many police departments issue Taurus or Rossi firearms to its officers? (Taurus now owns Rossi.) I have been told that this is immaterial, but I don't think that it is.

If Smith/Sig/Glock/Beretta/Ruger and whoever else is being carried by police officers all over the country, and Taurus/Rossi is not, what does that tell you?
 
Many departments allow their officers to carry whatever they want. Rossi is a rare choice with officers. As it is with me.

I too would buy a used Smith before I bought a new Rossi.
 
Politics may go into the selection process, but did you ever notice that the forums are not full of "Can I trust a Smith/Glock/Sig/Ruger/Beretta?" threads, but they are always full of "Can I trust a Taurus/Rossi?" threads. That speaks for itself...at least to me. I really have no dog in the fight if anybody buys a Brazilian gun. I'll rub along just fine with my Smith/Ruger/Beretta selections.
 
I owned a .357 Rossi revolver once. Once. The first time I fired it, when I opened the cylinder to eject the brass, the cylinder fell off and rolled down range.
 
I've owned 7. I had a firing pin snap on an Interarms 971, sent it back, got it back, snapped on the second shot. Had a smith put one on it for minimal charge, said he had to "properly fit it". Never had a problem after that.

Since Taurus bought 'em out, their fit and finish has improved. They are an even better gun, now. You won't get a Smith quality trigger with one, but it'll be the equal of any out of the box Ruger. Other than that, I have carried a M88 in the past, own a nice old M68 now with a 3" barrel, and have carried it a few times. They are good quality guns despite what unknowing haters like Dismantler might tell you. I know, I've played with more'n a few of 'em. Some folks have political agendas, some are Smith or Ruger Koolaid drinkers, there are many reasons to bash the foreigners. I shoot what I like. Currently I have 3 Rossis (one of 'em is a lever carbine in .357 magnum) and I have 8 Rugers (one's a 10/22), three Tauri, and one Smith and Wesson. I've kept only the guns I really liked over the years. I've traded a few I should have kept, but we all do that I guess. I do have a few, I admit, that ain't worth sellin' cause I couldn't get anything for 'em. They're all .22 handguns I bought cheap for toys. I finally bit the bullet and got a Mk 2 the other day to improve my .22 pistol collection. :D
 
Lots of good comments on this one...I for one have been surprised lately to hear of frames cracking on S&W lightweight revolvers...I think a S&W revolver is still better than a Taurus, Rossi, or Charter Arms gun; if you buy a gun from those manufacturers you can, I think expect to have problems at some point. However, I am concerned about what seems to be a decline in quality at S&W...
 
Well, I am dipping my toe into the waters. Picked up a 461 from my dealer after the obligatory 10 day California wait. 2" snubby .357 that will be used with .38 Specials only.

First impressions. Well, it isn't a Smith, Colt, or Ruger, but it isn't bad either. Far from it actually. The polish is well done, the blueing is even. Inside the frame the cylinder window appears to have the texture of a cast part, but these are supposed to be forged. I assume Rossi doesn't polish the inside of the frame as a cost saving measure, but it cannot be considered rough, more of a heavy beadblast. In fact, rubbing my hand over the whole revolver reveals no sharp or rough edges save for the hammer spur (which will be gone tomorrow). Crisp edges aplenty, and a few that may be too crisp for long term comfort, but nothing to draw blood. The basic shape is slightly off from what my eyes expect, no doubt due to many years of looking at Smith and Colts, but it grows on you when you realize just how compact it is. It is indeed a Colt DS sized gun, which I still think has a viable place in the snubby market. I would have radiussed a few thing differently, but it is not bad overall. If the California DOJ thought we were grownups and allowed us the option of the SS version (R462), I would be out in the garage now reshaping a few things, but since mine is blued, well.....

The DA pull is a bit heavier than I care for, but extremely smooth, which surprised me no end as I have yet to clean the factory grunge from the innards. What completely blew me away was the SA pull. I keep reading comments from folks who say it will not have a Smith quality trigger, both here and in other threads, but this one has a trigger that any Model 14 Masterpiece would be proud to boast of. In fact, I have had a Smith or two that was not as smooth as this, although it didn't take a lot of work to improve those dramatically.

Once I pull the side plate and clean out the interior, I plan on using something like Action Lube or Action Magic from Brownells. If I notice any rough edges, a very careful stoning will also be performed, taking care not to change any angles or dimensions, but just relieving burrs. I will not toy with the springs whatsoever.

A left handed Ray's Shado clamshell was in the holster box, meant for a J-frame. Works as though it was made for this exact gun, and will get soaked and boned to perfect what is already a great fit.

Of course the proof is in the actual performance, so it will get stretched out this weekend at the range. After that? If it survives 500 rounds over the next couple of range trips, it will be deemed good enough for a backup house weapon. Reason being I can lock it up easily with the Taurus style hammer block to protect it from the inquisitive hands of our ever more rambunctious 2 1/2 year old.

This kid is into everything, and if you are foolish enough to allow him a glimpse of where dad keeps his keys, phone, tacticool flashlights, etc, he is right there! We solved the flashlight problem by giving him a plastic AA LED light of his own. The keys and phone are stored up high on hooks, as this little snubby will be, but the lock is the insurance, along with the key on a cord around my neck. When the boy gets older, we can start with instructions, but for now "This is daddy's toy, not yours" seems to be only a momentary deterent. Thus the appreciation of the hammer lock Any other suggestions would be appreciated, and a mini handgun vault is due via UPS any day now. Not a battery operated model by the way.

Hmm, thread drift. Okay, thus far the R461 gets a provisional nod as being built okay.
 
If that's what you can afford and you like the revolver then buy it. You might want to look at their .357 Magnum (Model 461 in blue) because their Magnum snub nose revolvers will hold 6 rounds whereas the .38 Special holds only 5. The .357 Magnum M641 weighs 26 oz. and I think the .38 Special +P M351 weighs 24 oz.
 
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Have the 352 model in 38spec, this is a very accurate little gun. The trigger is outstanding in SA, and very good in DA. Actually prefer the 352 over the S&W 642 trigger wise. Love the grips on this gun it however, is mostly used for practice. Carry snubs are ruger Service-Six, and Taurus 851, both outstanding weapons.
 
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