Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by WrongHanded, Sep 24, 2019.
I do rotate my handguns,and I also shoot them at the range.
I rotate my carry guns, because I like shooting them all. Some days I love shooting a revolver, some days a pocket gun, a Mico 9,
Another reason I rotate guns is because I can.
That’s all the reason a person needs.
Pretty much... I like guns. I purchased a lot of them. I like to accually carry some of them depending on my mood, where I'm going, and what I'm doing on that particular day... YMMV. To make matters worse, I have night sights on many of my carry sized guns which also aids in me wanting to get my money's worth out of them before they expire.
It's a right that many do not have, and that we might not have in the future. Heck, in some states, they have to list a limited number of guns they intend on carrying on their carry license. We are one of the few if not only country on this planet that has the luxury of being able to carry whatever handgun they choose any time or day of the week. It's a slippery slope to make to the argument that one should only need to carry one particular gun 24/7, 365 to be safe and efficient. It's an argument that I'm sure antis will welcome with open arms.
Even though some might disagree with my choice, I'm personally am going to enjoy and put to good use the previlege of having this right to, for the most part, carry what I want when I want.
For me it depends on weather and activity, in the woods it's a .45 Colt revolver, in the heat of summer a Kahr P9 but the majority of the time it's a commander size 1911.
How does one "get my money's worth" out of Night Sights?
I read forums for threads like this one. Like pants, shirts, and shoes - each person picks what they like & what works for them.
And then somebody else thinks those choices aren’t optimal. I’ve reached the age where that reaction make me laugh and laugh and laugh!
Same with gun choices others make. I’m proud of you if you carry a gun. Any gun. Or a different gun every day. Support the 2nd Amendment, & the 1st one too. If you carry a gun you’ve accepted that you are responsible for yourself. Good for you!
Not put night expensive night sights on a safe queen? Actually carry and shoot the guns I installed them on instead of letting them sit unused and slowly fade away...
I now only put night sights on my carry guns, and fiber optic sights on pistols I don't intend on carrying...
Could not agree more... The problem is many gun owners think their way and their preference is the be all and end all, so some of them take issue with others who have a different opinion than theirs... I personally don't care what model gun someone carries, what caliber, what size gun, what type of gun (semoauto or revolver), or how many different guns just as long as they are happy with their choice.
Different strokes for different folks, I personally don't care for any pistol with a safe action trigger and I'm not partial to striker fired arms but that's just me.
A 1911 in my opinion is the safest of all semi's with a grip and thumb safety, I also like having a hammer that can be seen but again that's just me.
No rotation here, at least not since I started looking at a CCW gun as a tool.
One thing I've learned through multiple defensive classes and shooting matches, I don't transition to different guns easily, at least not and perform my best. I cannot take one of my 23 handguns and run either a Bill Drill or El Presidente and expect similar results. I'll have to spend some time and ammo getting used to a gun, whether it's the trigger or controls before I'm on "auto-pilot" with it. So due to that, I don't rotate CCW or switch match guns frequently.
I've "evolved" into a "pair" concept, with similar actions/trigger mechanism a mid sized compact gun, because I can shoot it well and it on average conceals well and a sub-compact for those occasions when I can't conceal the compact well enough.
I agree with keeping it simple. A pocket gun, an everyday fun, and maybe a woods gun. Making something double as both is just bonus points. Usually you can't find one to do all.
I own or have owned; I&J 32S&W TopBreak, Taurus PT25, Keltec P32, as pocket guns. Sold the PT to get the Keltec. Retired the I&J, still do for nostalgia since it was my FIRST gun ever. Keltec does most my pocket duty after the PT25 left its role.
I got my 9MM Shield before my Taurus or Keltec. I carry 124gr Fiocchi JHP +p on the street, Buffalo Bore 147gr Outdoorsman loads for the woods.
Decided I wanted more "oomph" for both street and woods gun. Also wanted something versatile/caliber swaps. Bought a G29 10MM Gen 3. I shoot the G29 the BEST out of all my guns, despite the "recoil". Between Underwood and BuffaloBore, I shoot 200grain loads exclusively for carry.
It is easier to find one caliber to do it all than one gun. I could argue a G29 can almost do everything but be a pocket gun. Add a longer barrel/hot loads=woods gun, keep it short and sweet for the streets. That is my long term goal for it. I find myself carrying the G29 more than the Shield. I don't notice the "big bad 10mm recoil" either...but I handle recoil extremely well being only 5'10 and 170 pounds.
Why does this all matter? I dry fire, and do holster draws a lot...sitting, standing, I keep busy. Watching TV, or during an Ebook I do training. I wouldn't advise rotating more than 3-5 guns. 5 is a lot, but doable. A little bit every few days. I barely get to the range, but I do a LOT of dry fire/draw. It is 100% free.
I do a little bit of something every other day. 30 minutes maybe at most if I am busy sometimes more. Discipline. One day its draws/grip, next day target holds/grip/stance, next day trigger pull, or put it all into one. I have done both, individual and combined routines. Stationary and moving.
Tldr; People who cant keep up with handling drills, buy one/two guns and deal with the limitations. Nothing wrong with that, and if you can do so. It will aid you in that it will be all you know, more time on one system. Sometimes budgets limit us, laws, or even preference lead us to having one gun. Nobody is making a wrong choice, as long as you do SOME practice. I'd say 75/25 Dry/live fire. Could get away with 90/10.
One can readily become quite proficient with several firearms, with practice.
What practice and proficiency cannot do are provide defenders with the immediate knowledge of which firearm it is that they are about to draw and use in the event of a vey unpleasant, startling, rapidly developing, and very frightening attack, an those who "rotate" carry guns will most likely not really be aware of which one they are carrying until they touch it--their minds will be elsewhere.
One may contend that the time required to reset ones expectations after touching the grip will be slight, but it may be more time than is available.
We had a case here in which an experienced LEO drew her pistol when she intended to draw her Taser. She yelled "Taser, Taser", and fired the gun, wounding a fleeing shoplifter.
I am very risk averse, and I only change firearms when there is a cogent reason,
While I agree in principle with much of what you say, I do think this case is more a case where someone may not have previously been in too many potential use-of-force situations (I know many veteran cops who have trouble placing handcuffs on the most compliant drunk driver) that required split-second decisions) and let the adrenaline overcome her. Most agencies absolutely require all less lethal force options to be placed away, if not opposite, the firearm on the belt, so once again, I posit that regular training with everything one carries on a daily basis is the most important factor.
We also had a deputy up in my region who shot (with a .40 caliber) a suspect when she intended to TASER him.
For myself, I would never carry any firearm that I had not been recently getting a great deal of practice with, including the drawstroke and control manipulation (1911, CZ or Beretta).
Going (changing) from a Glock 23/22/35 - all work exactly the same - wouldn't be problematic.
The 23 gets carried most, easily concealed under summer attire; I'd be content with it regardless of season.
What would be "imprudent" would be for me to not carry AT ALL if I'm in an environment where I have to disarm frequently, rather than switch from a full sized gun carried tucked IWB, to a pocket carried Smith 36 when necessary.
Well I “rotate” between a Glock 19 and a Smith 60 for the same reason. I’ve used those two guns as my carry “rotation” for over a decade. This isn’t really what I meant in my post but while we are on it I guess it is not as imprudent when your two guns in your rotation are pretty much the same user interface.
I’ve read on here of people rotating a GP100 with a Smith 3913 and a J frame and a CZ 75 Compact and whatever the next one is that they buy next week or month. That is IMO, imprudent.
I have several handguns that I carry frequently. It works for me, don't really care what others think of it, although their thoughts are not at all invalid.
Everyone makes their own decisions on such matters........
Switching guns out depending on what day it is is dumb, but I do think there's logic behind switching carry guns depending on the weather, season, or what clothes you're wearing.
Carrying an LCP during winter under a coat is silly, but carrying a 1911 in summer under shorts and a tee shirt is even sillier.
i’m partial to consistency in a ccw. my perfectly lawful ccw choices are also heavily constrained by social concerns. i’ve found that an admittedly untactical naa mini survival 22lr fitted with cv revision grips can unobtrusively come along everywhere that a ccw is within the law, so it is a consistent ccw. if dress and locale permit, i have tried, practiced and enjoy multiple ccw options but the naa has become my foundation piece.
Why on Earth is that? The flat profile of the 1911 makes it very easy to conceal under a t-shirt, regardless of season.
At least for me.
Guess it depends on which size 1911 he had in mind, but I agree.
Was thinking more of size and weight, carrying a 5 inch 1911 at 40oz isn't something I want to do when it's 90 outside.
I was thinking full size 5 inch 1911's, not the commander sizes with the alloy frames. Yeah, those wouldn't be too bad, but I'd still rather be carrying something lighter in summer.
I have three I carry...Depending on my dress or location. Always carry enough ammo for a reload.
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