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Rove Won't Be Charged in CIA Leak Case

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  1. Desertdog

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    Rove Won't Be Charged in CIA Leak Case
    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/6/13/72519.shtml?s=icp

    Top White House aide Karl Rove has been told by prosecutors he won't be charged with any crimes in the investigation into leak of a CIA officer's identity, his lawyer said Tuesday.

    Attorney Robert Luskin said that special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald informed him of the decision on Monday, ending months of speculation about the fate of one of President Bush's closest advisers. Rove testified five times before a grand jury.

    Fitzgerald has already secured a criminal indictment against Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

    "On June 12, 2006, Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald formally advised us that he does not anticipate seeking charges against Karl Rove," Luskin said in a statement.

    "In deference to the pending case, we will not make any further public statements about the subject matter of the investigation," Luskin said. "We believe the special counsel's decision should put an end to the baseless speculation about Mr. Rove's conduct."

    Fitzgerald has been investigating whether senior administration officials intentionally leaked the identity of CIA undercover operative Valerie Plame in retribution because her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, sharply criticized the administration's pursuit of war in Iraq.

    Rove, who most recently appeared before a grand jury in April, has admitted he spoke with columnist Robert Novak and Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper in the days before they published Plame's name in July 2003.

    Rove, however, did not originally tell prosecutors about his conversation with Cooper, only revealing it after his lawyer discovered a White House e-mail that referred to it.

    Fitzgerald was investigating whether Rove lied or obstructed justice in failing to initially disclose the conversation. The presidential aide blamed a faulty memory and sought to testify before the grand jury after finding the e-mail to correct his testimony.

    The threat of indictment had hung over Rove, the man President Bush dubbed "the architect" of his re-election, even as Rove was focusing on the arduous task of halting Bush's popularity spiral and keeping Democrats from capturing the House or Senate in November elections.
     
  2. Mannlicher

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    The only 'charges' that have or will come out of this whole Democratic witch hunt are against Scooter L. for not being truthful. Note that he was not guilty of anything else, he just fudged the truth under oath. No reason to lie Scooter, when you have not done anything wrong. :)
     
  3. Doug b

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    Like Bill Clinton just fudged the truth right. Dem. witch hunt my foot this is another rep. cover-up .
     
  4. gopguy

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    Of course he won't be charged. Everyone knows Joe Wilson pinhead that he is mentioned on his own web page that his wife Valerie worked at CIA....This long before his sham trip to Niger too look into yellow cake..If anyone should be charged it is him for providing false information to the CIA!
     
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  5. buzz_knox

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    How is it possible to have a cover up when there was no crime? Valerie Plaime was not a covert operative covered by the applicable laws. Rove could have stood on the White House lawn and declared her identity to the world with complete impunity.

    The only issue is that Libby decided to play fast and loose with the grand jury and ticked off the special prosecutor. If he'd simply stated "she wasn't a covert agent and by the way, her husband had outed her long ago," he'd still have his job and face no charges.
     
  6. Erebus

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    This will put a bee in more than a few leftist bonnets.
     
  7. ravinraven

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    Nuts!

    So we are back to square one. Just when the libs thought that all it takes is wishful thinking to get an indictment AND a conviction, along comes some right-wing fact, truth and logic freak and wrecks the whole show.
    Nuts!

    rr
     
  8. Doug b

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    Fox news "the fair and balanced" right wing shill.I guess you can fool some of the people some of the time.
     
  9. buzz_knox

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    Doug b, I did a word search and it seems that the first mention of Fox News was by you. Could you explain what you mean by your post?
     
  10. Doug b

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    I'm forced to watch fox news at work, and have found it to be the source of most right wing dis-information.
     
  11. gopguy

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    Uh compared to the left wing shills that trash gun owners and the NRA at every turn I will choose Fox everytime. Come on now get real. Fox is much more fair and balanced than the rest and it is easy to demonstrate.

    I answered a lib in the editorial pages of the local paper recently who was trashing Fox. This is part of what I wrote.

    Fox is not just staffed by conservatives, it has plenty of liberals
    working there and they strike out at the President
    often. Off the top of my head there is Alan Colmes (co
    host of Hannity and Colmes),Jeff Birnbaum of the Washington Post,
    Nina Easton of the BostonGlobe, Mara Liasson of NPR,
    Mort Kondrake (The Hill), Greta Van Sustern a lib lawyer has her own show,
    Bob Beckel , Ellis Henican who sits in for Alan on
    Hannity &Colmes, Juan Williams ,Susan Estrich, Lanny
    Davis (former Clinton lawyer), and Dick Morris (former
    Clinton aide). These names should be familiar to the
    liberals reading this as they are prominent in the
    liberal community. You see, Fox does have
    balance--conservative and liberal commentators in
    equal numbers. The networks like ABC view fairness
    like this: Sam Donaldson and Cokie Roberts, two
    liberals, vs. George Will, a centrist conservative. If
    a conservative was on a show he was outnumbered. The
    networks in their attempt to be fair have given shows
    to people like Chris Matthews, who wrote speeches for
    President Jimmy Carter and later worked for Democratic
    Speaker of the House Tip O’Neil; George Stephanopolos,
    one of Bill Clinton's high profile top aides, replaced
    David Brinkley; Tim Russert once worked for Sen.
    Daniel Patrick Moynihan. ABC hired Jake Tapper back
    in 2003. He is a former Handgun Control Inc employee,
    and they frequently assign him to do stories on the
    NRA and gun owners….that’s fair? The man’s mind is
    made up before he arrives to do the story. The
    networks and CNN make no attempt to hide their leftist
    bias what so ever. CNN’s Eason Jordan even admitted
    they shaded and withheld their coverage prior to the
    war to stay in Iraq. In other words they lied to us to
    keep their Baghdad bureau. What other dictator are
    they shielding so they can keep a news room now? Let
    us not forget they also gave us the famous big black X
    over Vice President Cheney’s face recently. With that
    kind of track record at CNN and with the networks I
    will stick with Fox for television news coverage.
    Others must agree as Fox is outpacing all the others
    in the Nielsen ratings, while being available in far
    fewer homes.

    Now with the facts in hand doug you can continue to rail at Fox....but you are discredited as a leftist shill detached from reality....:neener:
     
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    Given that this thread has nothing to do with Fox News, and Plaime's status as a CIA employee who was not covered by the applicable statute is not at issue (having been so stated by the special prosecutor), your post comes out of nowhere. If you have some evidence that Plaime (who had by her own admission not worked outside the country for more than the 5 year period covered by the statute and whose employement with the CIA was openly discussed by her and her husband prior to the "leak") was in fact covered, then please offer it up.
     
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    Examples please. :scrutiny:
     
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    Anybody that would call Alan Colmes a lib. is truly indoctrinated.
     
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    You've been asked for evidence to justify your thread hijack. You respond with soundbytes. Frankly, you shouldn't be tossing around allegations of someone being indoctrinated.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    And with those words your credibilty is blown out of the water...:neener: ..
     
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    Examples

    were do we start: swift boat vets,wmd in Iraq,voting irregularities in Fla. and Oh.,Max Clelland, Saddam and 9/11,just to name a few and oh yes reps. will eat there own, John McCain.
     
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    my credibility is quite intact. Alan colmes is a stooge for Sean Insanity.Nobody that stands by there own convictions is that wishy washy.
     
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    The subject at hand is Karl Rove and Valerie Plaime. If you want to discuss other subjects, feel free to start a new thread. Or perhaps you'd like to do a search and find the 1000 and 1 threads on each of those subjects.

    If you're goal on this board is to show a new face for liberal gunowners beyond the stereotypical one of biased, hypocritical individuals with little more than the ability to regurgitate what their fellow travelers have told them, you're doing a bad job.
     
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    A laundry list with no explaination........Elaborate please.

    Let me do this one for you.
    They just had Bobby Kennedy Jr. on Fox the other day talking about this. Tin foil hat conspiracy time.... He was allowed to rail at length....sounding much like the south side of a north bound jassack. I saw no conservative bias there.....and Alan was defending Bobby.

    Hardly.

    So tell us about the rest. Or at least tell us how Fox was biased in the Plame case, to get us back on subject.
     
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    I retracted the comment about the book as it isn't out yet and my understanding of her statement on the issues could be faulty. I believed that in publicity discussions about the book, she'd made that comment but cannot verify this.
     
  23. Doug b

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    I think I'm done with this tag team.You questioned my credibility,then you ask for examples I give you examples.You weren't satisfied with them so now you attack in different direction,how Rovian.
     
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    Even if she was still covert, and she probably was not, then the person who should be frog walked for exposing her is her husband. Joe Wilson and then Vapid al herself.

    http://formerspook.blogspot.com/2005/07/protection-not-persecution.html

    That website run by Ambassador Wilson identified Valerie,his wife as an employee of Brewster-Jennings a known CIA front company. Everyone in DC and our opposition knows this.

    Valerie Plame also made public her connection to Brewster Jennings in making a $1000l contribution to Al Gore in his presidential race, listing that as her employer. It was exposed on Opensecrets.org who lets everyone know who gave financial contributions to what candidates. Perfectly legal.

    She and Joe exposed her.....If you want to be an undercover spook, don't have such a high profile that all notice you.:rolleyes:

    So end of case.:neener:
     
  25. buzz_knox

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    Don't play the martyr. You went off on tangents and then claimed not to have seen a post. Nothing has happened since you provided that.

    If you want to have a discussion on it, go for it. Just have a discussion. Don't start as you did with a hijack to go off on a tangent on your personal distate for one media source.
     
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