Ruger AR-15

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I for one applaud Ruger for giving people what they wanted so desperately for the last year - another EBR. It might be a bit more $ and later than people wanted certainly but its a good thing when American companies build guns for Americans :) Remember IF they did their job right it takes a while to bring something to market.
 
Hey! Ruger has another brand new, innovative, and groundbreaking design...oh wait...no it's not. Nevermind.

(This is the spot where I was going to put a comment about it having a 30 round magazine..which no honest man would ever need)

(This is the spot where someone else was going to comment about that view of the company dying with Bill Ruger)
 
Too little, too late. Even Remington beat Ruger to the punch on this one.
Can I get an estimate on how many months before Ruger realizes they screwed the pooch and drops this from the product line?
 
At least it's piston driven.

I will probably go my entire life without even touching one. Somehow, the thought leaves me...content. :)
 
I will probably give one of these a hard look in the near future, I would like to see the price come down a bit. We'll have to see what the street price is.

I know everyone seems to be more in favor of the POF piston AR or others, but until we see how the Ruger performs the comparison is strictly theoretical "bench racing". If the Ruger proves to be accurate, reliable, and durable it may be worth the premium just for the better warranty/customer support. The POF might be a nice unit, but I doubt when push comes to shove that they will have the capacity to back up their product as well as Ruger can.

If a street price of $1700-$1750 can be found then I would likely be interested.
 
I hope this is a case of "ya know what? we got no where trying to appease our enemies, so lets make our customers happy!"
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Yeah, I hope that they have changed their view, and actually want to support the product they produce.
 
I say, hmmmm.

First off, good for Ruger. Even if it's just a ploy to stop the haters, its a direct respone to the GUN BUYING PUBLIC. And that's cool. Been shooting Rugers since I was 6 or so, they make good stuff IMHO.

Secondly, a LOT of people buy a STOCK AR for a grand or more, then immediately spend $4-500 on aftermarket parts like free floating the barrel/forearm and such. I don't know what those Troy parts would cost to PUT on a stock rifle, but thats a consideration. As for cross marketing? That's nothing new, companies have been selling custom sights from other MFG's for years. Maybe it's new for Ruger. So maybe the price isn't THAT outrageous, considering I just plunked down $1500 on a STOCK Colt 6920.

Third, IS there a another piston-drive AR out there for under $1500?

Fourth, how does it shoot? Isn't that what it comes down to? Accuracy vs cost vs relliability? Ruger needs to demo that at some 3 gun matches up against Armalite, Bushmaster and Colt and CMMG and whoever else is making AR's like this.

Fifth, Remingtons don't have bayonet lugs either.
 
I would like to see one in 6.8spc . Not interested in the Ruger version of 5.56.
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Me, too. But I can see where the present market dictates an initial introduction in 5.56.

I've yet to figure out if it is a mil-spec in relation to swapping out uppers, and all that. (I'm assuming it is.)
 
I am with Dr. Rob on this one for sure. I enjoy several Rugers right now and I say kudos to them for listening to the market...

And h eis right about the aftermarket accessories, including the magpul mags and the Troy BUIS... good stuff and not cheap...

John
 
I say, hmmmm.

First off, good for Ruger. Even if it's just a ploy to stop the haters, its a direct respone to the GUN BUYING PUBLIC. And that's cool. Been shooting Rugers since I was 6 or so, they make good stuff IMHO.

Secondly, a LOT of people buy a STOCK AR for a grand or more, then immediately spend $4-500 on aftermarket parts like free floating the barrel/forearm and such. I don't know what those Troy parts would cost to PUT on a stock rifle, but thats a consideration. As for cross marketing? That's nothing new, companies have been selling custom sights from other MFG's for years. Maybe it's new for Ruger. So maybe the price isn't THAT outrageous, considering I just plunked down $1500 on a STOCK Colt 6920.

Third, IS there a another piston-drive AR out there for under $1500?

Fourth, how does it shoot? Isn't that what it comes down to? Accuracy vs cost vs relliability? Ruger needs to demo that at some 3 gun matches up against Armalite, Bushmaster and Colt and CMMG and whoever else is making AR's like this.

Fifth, Remingtons don't have bayonet lugs either.
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I agree. Also is there another piston driven AR15 out there that is adjustable? I have a POF and love it but it would be nice to dial in the gas sometimes.

Another thing many have overlooked is the barrel is hammer-forged Mil-Spec 41V45 and chromed lined. How many other hammer-forged AR15 barrels are out there?

When you ad up the "extras" the price doesn't seem too bad.

Troy sights~$280
P-mags~$45
Troy Rail~$240

Why everybody upset over the MSRP? Actual street price will come down as production ramps up. I'm looking forward to hearing more about this rifle as production models get into real users hands.
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I think Ruger will support the rifle...They have too. I know from my expierence that they are great to deal with. I have to think that they employed the investment casting process in this rifle in some way. Maybe the lower. Regardless, good for a large american company doing this.
 
I'm not really an AR guy, but I think that when you consider all the after market items YOU DON"T have to buy, the price looks better, at least to me.
 
I'm not really an AR guy, but I think that when you consider all the after market items YOU DON"T have to buy, the price looks better, at least to me.
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It does, but when you take out all the extras, it becomes a very plain AR (VERY plain) just with a piston system. I think Ruger could have done better offering a "base model" with standard stuff, vs all the troy stuff.
 
I for one think..... umm... umm....

I have decided that it is a good niche gun. It is not for me. I want an AR 20" barrel A2 sights with A2 stock. When I built mine I did it for $517.00. It is still running strong. I don't have troy rails, piston gas system (adjustable), or $45 mags. My gun is just as reliable as any.

I guess what I am trying to say is that duplicating a platform that is already well into production just seems taboo. They did nothing new except start a mass production of something that did not need fixed IMO. I think they should have improved on there bolt guns. Possibly put out some tubb 2k type target guns.

I really don't know what I am talking about.
 
How much are SIG556's going for? And what are other comparable gas piston AR15's and their prices?
 
How much are SIG556's going for? And what are other comparable gas piston AR15's and their prices?
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I think the only one that comes close to comparable is bushys, and i haven't looked at that one in a while. All the others are high end guns, same price, but with better features.
 
I was initially un-impressed, but after looking closely at the features, who wouldn't want an AK reliable piston AR, with no carrier tilt, easy to clean, sub moa, and a cold hammer forged barrel? As long as it's durable and shoots every time, what's not to like? They didn't skimp on accessories. If it hold up and shoots well, I'd get it. The grip and stock are easily changed out. If the piston system is durable and reliable, even if something breaks since ruger has a fairly large manufacturing base and are a bigger company, parts are going to be easier to get than say for an XCR.

I think this is a nice development for AR owners if this holds up.
 
It's a pretty sweet setup right out of the box. I can't really think of anything I'd add. It's obvious Ruger is trying to perfect the platform and bring the boutique AR into the mainstream.

And to everyone who was expecting to see Ruger come out with a $1000 MSRP AR-15. Did you really think they'd bring out a rifle that directly competes with the Mini-14? Really?? That's their bread a butter.
 
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