Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Gunther, Feb 28, 2009.
na, but they do pay other people to etch a nice logo on.
Ruger is truely a innovative manufacturer.
Remember IF they did their job right it takes a while to bring something to market.
(This is the spot where I was going to put a comment about it having a 30 round magazine..which no honest man would ever need)
(This is the spot where someone else was going to comment about that view of the company dying with Bill Ruger)
Can I get an estimate on how many months before Ruger realizes they screwed the pooch and drops this from the product line?
I will probably go my entire life without even touching one. Somehow, the thought leaves me...content.
I hope this is a case of "ya know what? we got no where trying to appease our enemies, so lets make our customers happy!"
I know everyone seems to be more in favor of the POF piston AR or others, but until we see how the Ruger performs the comparison is strictly theoretical "bench racing". If the Ruger proves to be accurate, reliable, and durable it may be worth the premium just for the better warranty/customer support. The POF might be a nice unit, but I doubt when push comes to shove that they will have the capacity to back up their product as well as Ruger can.
If a street price of $1700-$1750 can be found then I would likely be interested.
Yeah, I hope that they have changed their view, and actually want to support the product they produce.
First off, good for Ruger. Even if it's just a ploy to stop the haters, its a direct respone to the GUN BUYING PUBLIC. And that's cool. Been shooting Rugers since I was 6 or so, they make good stuff IMHO.
Secondly, a LOT of people buy a STOCK AR for a grand or more, then immediately spend $4-500 on aftermarket parts like free floating the barrel/forearm and such. I don't know what those Troy parts would cost to PUT on a stock rifle, but thats a consideration. As for cross marketing? That's nothing new, companies have been selling custom sights from other MFG's for years. Maybe it's new for Ruger. So maybe the price isn't THAT outrageous, considering I just plunked down $1500 on a STOCK Colt 6920.
Third, IS there a another piston-drive AR out there for under $1500?
Fourth, how does it shoot? Isn't that what it comes down to? Accuracy vs cost vs relliability? Ruger needs to demo that at some 3 gun matches up against Armalite, Bushmaster and Colt and CMMG and whoever else is making AR's like this.
Fifth, Remingtons don't have bayonet lugs either.
Me, too. But I can see where the present market dictates an initial introduction in 5.56.
I've yet to figure out if it is a mil-spec in relation to swapping out uppers, and all that. (I'm assuming it is.)
And h eis right about the aftermarket accessories, including the magpul mags and the Troy BUIS... good stuff and not cheap...
Here's a good look at the upper:
I agree. Also is there another piston driven AR15 out there that is adjustable? I have a POF and love it but it would be nice to dial in the gas sometimes.
Another thing many have overlooked is the barrel is hammer-forged Mil-Spec 41V45 and chromed lined. How many other hammer-forged AR15 barrels are out there?
When you ad up the "extras" the price doesn't seem too bad.
Why everybody upset over the MSRP? Actual street price will come down as production ramps up. I'm looking forward to hearing more about this rifle as production models get into real users hands.
It does, but when you take out all the extras, it becomes a very plain AR (VERY plain) just with a piston system. I think Ruger could have done better offering a "base model" with standard stuff, vs all the troy stuff.
I have decided that it is a good niche gun. It is not for me. I want an AR 20" barrel A2 sights with A2 stock. When I built mine I did it for $517.00. It is still running strong. I don't have troy rails, piston gas system (adjustable), or $45 mags. My gun is just as reliable as any.
I guess what I am trying to say is that duplicating a platform that is already well into production just seems taboo. They did nothing new except start a mass production of something that did not need fixed IMO. I think they should have improved on there bolt guns. Possibly put out some tubb 2k type target guns.
I really don't know what I am talking about.
I think the only one that comes close to comparable is bushys, and i haven't looked at that one in a while. All the others are high end guns, same price, but with better features.
I think this is a nice development for AR owners if this holds up.
And to everyone who was expecting to see Ruger come out with a $1000 MSRP AR-15. Did you really think they'd bring out a rifle that directly competes with the Mini-14? Really?? That's their bread a butter.
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