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Ruger Blackhawk .30 carbine anyone?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by theNoid, Oct 20, 2007.

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  1. theNoid

    theNoid Member

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    Just wondered if anyone out there shoots this gun and what they thought about it overall.

    Chuck
     
  2. enfield

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    Loud
    Accurate
    Fun!
     
  3. Ed Meinel

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    I finally figured out how to describe the different guns to people:

    Ruger Mark III 22LR -- piff! piff! piff!
    Ruger Single Six 22WMR -- bang! bang! bang!
    Beretta M9 9mm -- Pow! Pow! Pow!
    Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine -- BOOM! wha...?
    ...........................................BOOM! eep!
    ....................................flinchBOOM! Yowza!

    Very accurate, very fun!

    Ed
     
  4. zxcvbob

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    I've got one. It's fun to shoot; especially at dusk. Wear very good hearing protection!
    Bob
     
  5. R.W.Dale

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    I owned one for a while.

    LOUD
    FUN
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    USELESS

    I was rather surprised to find that 30 carbine performance from a handgun was rather anemic, falling somewhere in between 32 H&R and 7.62x25tok. Also with my particular example accuracy was rather lacking compared to blackhawks in more conventional camberings
     
  6. Timthinker

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    I have always wondered why Ruger offered the .30 carbine round in their Blackhawk revolver series. I never thought the market for this particular round would have justified the initial cost of production, but I am not a marketing advisor.


    Timthinker
     
  7. smee781

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    I love mine, Its a 1979 model and is one of my favorite pistol's for some reason. I am thinking of cutting it down to a 5 1/2 barrel.:confused: Ammo is still cheap and is a great tag along to my m1 carbine.
     
  8. SaxonPig

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    I would echo Krochus' thoughts. I had one in the 1980s and it was the loudest damn gun I ever shot. I suggest ear plus, and muffs, and then let you hair grow long to cover your ears, as well.

    I lost interest in the gun when I bought a chronograph and learned that the 110 grain military surplus ammo was only clocking 1400 FPS. At the time I was experimenting with really hot .38 Special loads and got to 1405 FPS with a 110 from a 4" Model 10 so getting the same velocity from the huge Blackhawk with nearly twice the barrel length left me unimpressed.

    I guess maybe if somebody gave you a ton of 30 Carbine ammo for free the Ruger would make sense. Otherwise, it's way underpowered for its size and weight and actually unpleasant to shoot due to the noise.
     
  9. MCgunner

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    I'm not sure what .30 carbine is good for in the field, but I reckon it'd be a fun range gun. Of course, anything accurate is useful for SOMEthing. :D I'll keep my .357 though, thanks.
     
  10. GRIZ22

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    I have always wondered why Ruger offered the .30 carbine round in their Blackhawk revolver series.

    Ruger manufactured the 30 carbine Blackhawk from 1968-1973. There was plenty of surplus 30 carbine around and a market for the commercial M1 carbines (Plainfield and Universal).

    They only made less than 23000 of these so I would think, although not rare, they would have some value to a collector.

    I lost interest in the gun when I bought a chronograph and learned that the 110 grain military surplus ammo was only clocking 1400 FPS. At the time I was experimenting with really hot .38 Special loads and got to 1405 FPS with a 110 from a 4" Model 10 so getting the same velocity from the huge Blackhawk with nearly twice the barrel length left me unimpressed

    But the Ruger 30 carbine will last a lot longer than your Model 10 running those kind of loads through it. Many of the 110 357 loads today don't get to 1400 fps in a 4".
     
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  11. Ala Dan

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    Loudest handgun report I have ever heard~! :scrutiny:;)
     
  12. theNoid

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    Hey folks, I sure appreciate the input here. I had read the report linked below before posting I was just wondering what some real-time folks had to say about the piece and the round. I suppose the whole idea of it being an "odd" round for the pistol crowd sort of appeals to me as well. Once again, thanks for all of the input so far.

    http://hunting.about.com/od/guns/l/aastruger30bh.htm

    Noidster
     
  13. jwr_747

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    had the money and bought one.for me,it's just a fun gun.fun to shoot at steel plates,ballons ect.one great noise maker. jwr
     
  14. Timthinker

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    GRIZ22, thanks for the background on the .30 Ruger Blackhawk. I did not realize that production of this gun began and ended so long ago. Your explanation answers my question.


    Timthinker
     
  15. theNoid

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    According to Ruger themselves, the Old Model Blackhawks in .30 carbine were made from 1968 to 1973. From 1974 until current production, it seems the New Model Blackhawk in .30 carbine has been available as well.

    Check out the link I provided above as it seems that fellow has chrono'd at over 1900fps with the Ruger and certain loads.

    Noidster
     
  16. Timthinker

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    I am still at a loss to understand why Ruger still produces the .30 Blackhawk. Granted, I now understand that it was introduced at a time when .30 carbine ammo was plentiful, but I have seen very few Blackhawks, all of them used, that have been chambered for this round. No doubt, it is obvious that I am not a great fan of the .30 carbine round and this probably colors my perception of the issue.


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  17. Chief 101

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    Grizz, Ruger still makes the .30 Carbine called the New Model Blackhawk. The dates you mention refer to the Old Model, or 3 screw, Blackhawk manufacture dates.
    Noid, the most accurate of revolver cartridges but earmuffs are a necessity. I've taken many a coyote and many a rockchuck with my OM 30 Carbine. Chief aka Maxx Load
     
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    That's for me to know and not you!
    Anyone got any pics?
     
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    Grizz, Ruger still makes the .30 Carbine called the New Model Blackhawk. The dates you mention refer to the Old Model, or 3 screw, Blackhawk manufacture dates.


    thanx Chief I wasn't aware they were still made.
     
  20. zxcvbob

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    I got over 1700 fps with 100 grain cast bullets using WSF powder, but the brass had excessive case head expansion afterwards (the primers fell out.) I need to work up a Blue Dot load.
     
  21. RCouch

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    Don't have one but do have a M1 and lots of ammo. I'm assuming that the ammo you're shooting is regular M1 ammo. If you hand loaded and used pistol ammo wouldn't that improve the statistics and lessen the noise? Someone please set me straight on this.
     
  22. arcticap

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    I bought a brand new New Model Blackhawk in .30 Carbine several years ago and was very disappointed. At least one of the chambers was oversized & loose fitting, and the tapered .30 carbine case would back out of the chamber as the cylinder rotated which jammed up the action. I felt that this particular gun would be unreliable in the field and for self-defense because of it. Also, I think that a few of the fired cases were very difficult to extract.
    I was shooting commercial PMC ammo that I never had a problem shooting in any other .30 carbine lever or semi-auto guns. I sold the gun at a loss because I wasn't sure whether Ruger could fix the problem satisfactorily or not.
    The Taurus Raging .30 uses moon clips, and now I can understand why.
    I don't believe that I would buy another one, but it had the potential to be a fun shooter.
     
  23. Chief 101

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    If you hand loaded and used pistol ammo wouldn't that improve the statistics and lessen the noise? Someone please set me straight on this.

    I handload for mine using a 90gr XTP by Hornady with a moderate amount of 2400 and that makes the noise a whole lot more tolable.

    arcticap, you could have sent it back to the factory and the problems would have been solved readily and returned. Ruger has as good or better a warranty as anybody in the business. Remember that for the next time.
    Chief aka Maxx Load
     
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    Got one earlier this year. From two range sessions with it:

    It's loud, very loud.
    It's accurate, darn accurate.

    I wish I'd gotten one sooner.
     
  25. arcticap

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    Thanks Chief 101, that's fair advice. Because of the different chamber sizes, and the possibility that different ammo would have yet another case size which could make the problem persist, I didn't think that the problem would be permanently solved.
    If I had been a member of this forum and knew how many other .30 carbine Blackhawks worked as intended, then I probably would have let Ruger try to fix it.
    But you know, it just goes to show everyone that there's going to be a lemon in every bunch. :D
     
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