Ruger g.s. Scout rifle.

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I love my GSR!!The scout rifle was a "concept" by Col. Cooper.This has been debated ad nauseum over the years.The Scout has always been in flux.The folks at Gunsite were asked to put their 2 cents into it for Ruger and I believe they came up with a good product.I personally only have one teeny gripe,it does not have a stripper clip guide built into the receiver.

The metal factory mags are not made by Accuracy International(AI) they are made by Accurate -Mag Products.

http://www.accurate-mag.com/

Ruger looked at using M-14 mags but could not get them to work with the GSR action.

I personally prefer Alpha-Industries 10 round GSR mags,they are muy bueno!!

http://www.alphaindmfg.com/

The poly factory mags have been spotty in reliability,so I'm avoiding those til Ruger sorts things out.

Put a proper Scout optik on it and one of Andys Leathers "Ching-Slings"(DA KIT) and you are GTG.

http://andysleather.com/
 
Andrew is correct.

Not only that, but rifles normally used with detachable mags don't always accept strippers all that well even WITH an integral guide.

The Canadian-issue C1/C1A1 (FAL) has a stripper guide incorporated in the top cover. In actual testing with our NATO-standard stripper clips, we found that use of strippers to load a mag in the rifle was very awkward and mostly unsuccessful.

The rifle was issued with four magazines and a loading guide which slipped over a magazine and accepted the strippers. Combat-packed ammo was issued in weather-proof bandoliers, with two strippers of five rounds in each bandolier pocket. This worked very well, compared to the struggle involved in TRYING to load the mag from strippers while it was in the rifle.

The M14 mags that so many people say should have been Ruger's choice for the GSR are all over the map for quality. Some, without exaggeration, are pure junk. I don't blame them one bit for going with a different magazine....and I OWN an M1A.
 
I don't miss having a stripper clip guide on the GSR whatsoever. I have and had rifles with stripper clip guides and I have used stripper clips, but those guns need them (militarily) due to a fixed magazine. Or the gun was issued with only one detachable mag and the old military doctrine was to charge the mag with stripper clips instead of passing out tons of magazines.

I really don't see the need for stripper clips on modern manufactured rifles with detachable magazines.
 
The Alpha magazines are the best choice, followed by factory steel (Accurate Mag) in either five or ten rounds, and last by the plastic factory versions. I use them all, and was hopeful that the plastic would be better. I have had to return one so far, but the replacement seems to work.
The Galco Safari Ching Sling works great as well.
 
The fact that Mossberg was able to go with SR-25 mags says something. Ruger could have done the same. But they like charging through the nose for mags. It is possible, although I've heard a Ruger rep explain that it wasn't. M14 mags are made all over the world, with different grades of great, good, bad, and terrible. I wouldn't use them either. The only magazine fed Ruger firearms that use widely available mags are their 1911 and SR-556, that I know of. That being said, I love my Rugers. I don't care much for Mossberg, except shotguns.

Being able to take a mag I can get for $20 or less over mags that cost $40 is big. Magpul will be releasing a 25 rounder soon too! Also Magpul's 10 rounder is very short when compared to Rugers. The best part? Availability, Magpul always has an endcap or section in all the shops I frequent. I really wanted a Gunsite Scout but the MVP is just a little better. Synthetic stock and SR-25 mags make all the difference!
 
On order to make their MVP rifle to feed from AR mags, they had to put a small hinged flap on the bottom of their bolt. From a gunsmith standpoint, it looks like an exceptionally flimsy system. I handled the rifle at SHOT show in January, and the flap did not feel like a quality device. It's held in place by a single small diameter roll pin.

Call the rifle what you will, having held both guns, taken them apart, shot them (the .223 MVP and the .308 GSR), and otherwise fondled them. I prefer the engineering on the Ruger. It just seems like a better built rifle.

I never met Col. Cooper. He had some (interesting?) ideas. Some better than others.

My opinion isn't based on what he would say, just what I have observed and done...
 
Every photo of the rifle reminds me of my Enfield # 5 (ten-rd. mag.) "Jungle Carbines" and the Spanish FR8 Mausers in the next room.

Other than having a scope mount or being in .308 (also safe for the $425, large-ring FR8), is the $1039 GSR a new rifle concept?
Maybe it is, but the prices seems to be double what is necessary If one doesn't need to have it scoped.
Many feral pigs are shot from less than fifty yards.
 
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splithoof said:
The Alpha magazines are the best choice, followed by factory steel (Accurate Mag) in either five or ten rounds, and last by the plastic factory versions. I use them all, and was hopeful that the plastic would be better. I have had to return one so far, but the replacement seems to work.
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If I'd have known of the Alphas before I placed my Ruger order, I pretty dang sure I would have preferred the metal Alphas, too. :)
 
Ignition Override said:
Other than having a scope mount or being in .308 (also safe for the $425, large-ring FR8), is the $1039 GSR a new rifle concept?
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I don't think the GSR is a new concept at all. All the features on the GSR have been in other designs in one way or another for decades. Except for the forward picatinny rail, that's sort of a recent development.

Yet, people still buy new rifles regardless of the type or availability of pre-owned rifles out there.
 
On the Mossberg MVP .308 they didn't have to make any changes to their bolt from the looks of it. The .223/5.56 version has that extra flimsy piece but the .308 version doesn't. It was the reason I held back on the .223/5.56.
 
This is the review I read, only one I could find. Rifleshooter is a Guns & Ammo magazine company. The review is sucky but pics and info are there somewhat. Look up gallery of guns, they are listed for mossberg just not for sale yet too. On the GOG website it is listed as taking sr25 type mags. The review has it as M14/sr25 style mags which is wrong. How do you get a job working for a magazine? I know I could do a better job than this guy.

Rifleshooter review:http://www.rifleshootermag.com/2013/01/29/everyman-rifle-mossberg-mvp-in-7-62-review/

Gallery of Guns pics and prices:http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?pg=list&index=0&mfg=Mossberg&mdl=MVP&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=

The one thing I didn't like was the adjustable stock pistol grip version, it just looks stupid. The patrol is just fine with me. The flex can have the stock changed out for the normal style which is what I would do if you want an 18.5
inch barrel.
 
One thing I don't like about mine is that the issue mags rattle worse than they do on an AK.
They're not even a rock 'n lock type magazine and they don't lock in the front and rear both.
I'm tempted to try a different magazine to test the fit before I write mine off. It is a well-made and soft shooting rifle. But I may end up with something customized from a M77 in 30 '06 or .308 for my uses.
Hard to say at this point. I'd have no qualms about recommending one to someone - it has been 100%. It just may not be the best rifle for me.
 
When you refer to "issue mags", are they the steel or polymer type?

I'm asking because , on my left-hand Scout, the ten-round steel magazine that came with the rifle is a pretty decent fit. It's not unduly loose or "rattly", and it feeds well.

I also bought several 3- and 5-shot polymer magazines, and they are simply excellent. VERY secure, smooth-feeding, and generally of high quality. I particularly like the easier carrying of the rifle, especially with the almost-flush-fitting 3-rounders.

It's funny.... one really doesn't "need" a lot of mags for a bolt-action rifle, but I have the dangest urge to buy more of those polymer jobs.
 
Bruce - mine came with the steel AI ten round mag. I bought one extra for it. Both feed fine, but they wobble.
 
mastiffhound said:
This is the review I read, only one I could find. Rifleshooter is a Guns & Ammo magazine company. The review is sucky but pics and info are there somewhat. Look up gallery of guns, they are listed for mossberg just not for sale yet too. On the GOG website it is listed as taking sr25 type mags. The review has it as M14/sr25 style mags which is wrong. How do you get a job working for a magazine? I know I could do a better job than this guy.

Rifleshooter review:http://www.rifleshootermag.com/2013/01/29/everyman-rifle-mossberg-mvp-in-7-62-review/

Gallery of Guns pics and prices:http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?pg=list&index=0&mfg=Mossberg&mdl=MVP&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=308&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=

The one thing I didn't like was the adjustable stock pistol grip version, it just looks stupid. The patrol is just fine with me. The flex can have the stock changed out for the normal style which is what I would do if you want an 18.5
inch barrel.
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Cool. Thanks! :cool:
 
The stock steel Ruger magazines are produced by Accurate Mag, and are NOT AI. While my plastic stock Ruger mags did function in one AI rifle I tried them in, a stock AI magazine at the time DID NOT function in my GSR. At the time I purchased Alpha magazines, there was a necessary distinction between Ruger and IA model numbers, as noted in their order process at the time.
 
That's curious; I have never seen any rattle, and that is with six examples of the rifle, and the dozens of mags that were with them.
 
Hi there...I have seen in several places that the Ruger Scout mags are made by Accuracy International. Is it possible to purchase compatible mags from Accuracy?
 
Hi there...I have seen in several places that the Ruger Scout mags are made by Accuracy International. Is it possible to purchase compatible mags from Accuracy?
 
They are NOT made by AI; they are produced for Ruger by Accurate Mag.
Plastic mags I believe are produced by Ruger.
 
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