Ruger LC9S trigger job. Can't wait to "see" the result.

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I screwed up and had the modification done without measuring the original pull length. So now I can’t specify what I had and how it compares to what I now have. But you guys with stock LC9Ss, please measure the pull length and compare it to your SR9s, MPs and Glocks. Tell me how it compares. If you care, of course. Thanks.
 
I have seen his post before and wondered the same. He describes his LC9S completely opposite to what I have owned and others that own them. Plus Ruger even advertises the gun as "Light Crisp Trigger". He really seems to be speaking about the original model, but when I asked him, he said no, for sure it was the LC9S,
We aren't arguing about light. I agree with that. We are arguing about crisp. An SA revolver is crisp. A 1911 is almost as crisp as that. Based on that definition, do you really think the LC9S is crisp? Naturally I don't expect a striker gun to be crisp like that. After all the cocking has to be completed before firing. But there are so many examples of short strikers.
 
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The only minor criticism I have about the trigger on my LC9s pro is the reset is longer and less distinct than the other strikers I have, and I don't care.
To me it is a gun designed to be affordable, easily concealed, comfortable to carry and still a very nice shooting gun. It is certainly not designed to be a range, target or competition gun.
I am all for anyone customizing guns to their liking. I just personally wouldn't put $160 into a $250 gun to make a good trigger a little "better".
 
The only minor criticism I have about the trigger on my LC9s pro is the reset is longer and less distinct than the other strikers I have, and I don't care.
To me it is a gun designed to be affordable, easily concealed, comfortable to carry and still a very nice shooting gun. It is certainly not designed to be a range, target or competition gun.
I am all for anyone customizing guns to their liking. I just personally wouldn't put $160 into a $250 gun to make a good trigger a little "better".
Fair enough. I just want to know where all you folks are getting this gun for $250.
 
Fair enough. I just want to know where all you folks are getting this gun for $250.

Wow, never mind. I see it all over for as low as $219. It has really dropped. Well, one way to look at it is at least you pay so little for the gun there is plenty of money left over for the trigger job. :)
 
I screwed up and had the modification done without measuring the original pull length. So now I can’t specify what I had and how it compares to what I now have. But you guys with stock LC9Ss, please measure the pull length and compare it to your SR9s, MPs and Glocks. Tell me how it compares. If you care, of course. Thanks.

I posted the length of takeup, pull, overtravel, and reset on mine a couple pages back. After the takeup mine has the shortest pull of any striker fire gun I can recall ever shooting. I can feel the reset with winter gloves on, which I practice due to where I live. I agree with the others that your description does not sound like my gun.
 
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We aren't arguing about light. I agree with that. We are arguing about crisp. An SA revolver is crisp. A 1911 is almost as crisp as that. Based on that definition, do you really think the LC9S is crisp? Naturally I don't expect a striker gun to be crisp like that. After all the cocking has to be completed before firing. But there are so many examples of short strikers.

Being a 1911 guy I do chuckle when people describe a striker trigger as “crisp” but I guess I can’t think of a better term. I believe people just mean there is no stacking in the pull and the break feels very sudden. The break feels like a snap vs some more mushy triggers where you can feel the striker pushing past the sear. A tuned 1911 trigger should have no takeup and snap with only a few hundredths of an inch of trigger movement. Like snapping a piece of glass as they say.
 
Say more. Does yours have a well-defined reset that is about mid-way through the full pull length? Little or no take up? Pull length (not force) similar to other striker guns you are familiar with, like say maybe the SR9 or G19? If you answered no to two or all three of these questions, then your gun is very similar to how mine was...and exactly how I described it.
You left out...
Currently reminds me of a revolver.
Not even close.
 
If you’ve been shooting for 40 years and don’t know the difference between a single action 1911 trigger and a striker fired one, then I’m not gonna waste my time explaining it.

A few years ago, there was a guy on another forum who admitted to carrying a Beretta PX4 Compact with hammer back and safety off. Said it was no difference than a Glock. He was wrong too.

Yes. Your money, your choice. Have at it. Just find it amusing that you put a red dot on a sub Compact self defense weapon. Kind of defeats the purpose, don’t you think? Why not make yourself a 40 round magazine for that LC9S too?
 
If you’ve been shooting for 40 years and don’t know the difference between a single action 1911 trigger and a striker fired one, then I’m not gonna waste my time explaining it.

A few years ago, there was a guy on another forum who admitted to carrying a Beretta PX4 Compact with hammer back and safety off. Said it was no difference than a Glock. He was wrong too.

Yes. Your money, your choice. Have at it. Just find it amusing that you put a red dot on a sub Compact self defense weapon. Kind of defeats the purpose, don’t you think? Why not make yourself a 40 round magazine for that LC9S too?
C'mon, I never said that a 1911 trigger and a striker gun trigger were the same or even should or could be. Look at post #52. I was very clear about that. Basically I said that the closer the striker trigger approximated the 1911 trigger, the better it would be.
 
Well, so I guess I have to face that I had a bad example of the LC9S trigger before the modification, and now I don't. Works for me. As for the money expended, as my good friend says, "It ain't a kidney."

However, consider this: would Powder River Precision bother to develop, produce and market the modification kit if there was no demand for it? I think not. And why would there be demand? The obvious answer is that it is needed.
 
If you’re happy, then so be it. I’ve blown money in a bunch of stuff. In the end, it’s your gun. If it puts tighter groups in paper and that makes you smile, then it’s worth it. I have all the holes touching at 10 yards.

But don’t think those mods make it a better self defense tool. For a self defense shooting, that new trigger wouldn’t matter.
 
The only minor criticism I have about the trigger on my LC9s pro is the reset is longer and less distinct than the other strikers I have, and I don't care....
Well there is someone saying just about the same thing as I have reported with regard to reset. So at least one person has a similar issue to part of mine. Nice to know I am not 100% alone.
 
But don’t think those mods make it a better self defense tool. For a self defense shooting, that new trigger wouldn’t matter.

That's fine. Remember I am an experimental scientist. A large part of the driving force for doing the modification was just to see what the result would be. I care about stuff like that.
 
Well there is someone saying just about the same thing as I have reported with regard to reset. So at least one person has a similar issue to part of mine. Nice to know I am not 100% alone.
"Longer and less distinct than others" means exactly that, not an acknowledgment the LC9s is a drastic departure from other pistols with otherwise fine triggers. I've shot plenty of fine pistols even longer in length of pull and reset than the subject gun.
Look, your dime and your time. No criticism of your desire to tinker and modify. I simply think your characterization of the LC9s is extreme and inaccurate, if your gun indeed is like most other owners report. If not, perhaps you own an atypical example.
 
...Just find it amusing that you put a red dot on a sub Compact self defense weapon. Kind of defeats the purpose, don’t you think? Why not make yourself a 40 round magazine for that LC9S too?
Actually I don't think the red dot defeats the purpose at all. I shoot groups 1/2 the size with the red dot as without. Considering the purpose of the gun is to shoot someone, and my chances of doing it are that much better with the red dot than without, I think the optic supports the purpose of the gun very well. Some folks carry a full size 1911. Some folks carry a sub-compact with iron sights. I am surely somewhere in between. If you drew the outline of the full size 1911ona sheet of paper, I'm pretty sure my CCW setup would fit into it just fine. I doubt you bust on the folks that carry a big gun. Why bust on me?
 
I carry the same pistol as the OP, with a laser. I found the trigger to be easy to handle, but I do like DA revolvers. I think the OP's description go the trigger to be spot-on; I don't have a problem with it, and wouldn't do the same mods he did, but I understand why he did. I also understand that the driving consideration here was to shorten the trigger stroke, not lighten it. I wouldn't pour more money into my LC9s, because I feel that the trigger is adequate for it's "belly gun" role. This is coming from guy who has put over $140 into modding a $50 Crosman 1377's trigger and breech.
 
Actually I don't think the red dot defeats the purpose at all. I shoot groups 1/2 the size with the red dot as without. Considering the purpose of the gun is to shoot someone, and my chances of doing it are that much better with the red dot than without, I think the optic supports the purpose of the gun very well. Some folks carry a full size 1911. Some folks carry a sub-compact with iron sights. I am surely somewhere in between. If you drew the outline of the full size 1911ona sheet of paper, I'm pretty sure my CCW setup would fit into it just fine. I doubt you bust on the folks that carry a big gun. Why bust on me?

Listen, I don’t care what you carry. If it makes you happy, go with it. But I have never, ever, not once, heard of someone putting a red dot on a small carry gun.

You say you’re 70. Been shooting for 40 years? How many shootings you been in? In the extremely unlikely event of a real shooting, the red dot and trigger mods aren’t going to do a thing. You’re not gonna feel tbe reset on that trigger. And your groups aren’t going to be that tight. Both you and the target will be moving. You probably won’t even have the time to get a good sight picture.
 
Listen, I don’t care what you carry. If it makes you happy, go with it. But I have never, ever, not once, heard of someone putting a red dot on a small carry gun.

You say you’re 70. Been shooting for 40 years? How many shootings you been in? In the extremely unlikely event of a real shooting, the red dot and trigger mods aren’t going to do a thing. You’re not gonna feel tbe reset on that trigger. And your groups aren’t going to be that tight. Both you and the target will be moving. You probably won’t even have the time to get a good sight picture.

Well said indeed, and o, what you said also applies to all shooters. All of this nonsense that has been going on with Youtube reviews, internet garbage and on and on etc. advertising light triggers and ever lighter triggers and short resets is getting ridiculous. Internet reviews now seem to focus the judgement on most CCW guns now on how light the trigger is. A double action trigger to so many internet shooters is almost blasphemy. Even brand new Rookie shooters are going out looking at the lightest trigger possible. They have to have the shortest resets possible. I guess they figure Professionals do this, so they must do it as well. Everyone wants to do what the Pro's do. (Even if the Pro's do not). I guess they think "RIDING A RESET" also sets them apart from other shooters. And hearing a audible reset in a gun fight? Man that is just laughable. I personally think the best thing about short resets is and riding a reset is the bragging about them around the office water cooler. It sounds cool, and can really impress other novice shooters.
Personally I have spent my life learning point and shoot skills. I never ride any reset on any gun, never have and never will. I can shoot a double action gun with complete confidence. I do not want nor need a Red Dot scope on any carry Gun. I focus on Fast Drawing, and fast shots to center mass with these skills.
This is America, and of course, there are shooters out there that will mod these already light triggers to death. Yes, they will place red dots and God knows what else on them. I am surprised that the LCP's do not have some after market guy making red-dots already.
Where does it end??
 
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Well said indeed, and o, what you said also applies to all shooters. All of this nonsense that has been going on with Youtube reviews, internet garbage and on and on etc. advertising light triggers and ever lighter triggers and short resets is getting ridiculous. Internet reviews now seem to focus the judgement on most CCW guns now on how light the trigger is. A double action trigger to so many internet shooters is almost blasphemy. Even brand new Rookie shooters are going out looking at the lightest trigger possible. They have to have the shortest resets possible. I guess they figure Professionals do this, so they must do it as well. Everyone wants to do what the Pro's do. (Even if the Pro's do not). I guess they think "RIDING A RESET" also sets them apart from other shooters. And hearing a audible reset in a gun fight? Man that is just laughable. I personally think the best thing about short resets is and riding a reset is the bragging about them around the office water cooler. It sounds cool, and can really impress other novice shooters.
Personally I have spent my life learning point and shoot skills. I never ride any reset on any gun, never have and never will. I can shoot a double action gun with complete confidence. I do not want nor need a Red Dot scope on any carry Gun. I focus on Fast Drawing, and fast shots to center mass with these skills.
This is America, and of course, there are shooters out there that will mod these already light triggers to death. Yes, they will place red dots and God knows what else on them. I am surprised that the LCP's do not have some after market guy making red-dots already.
Where does it end??
It doesn’t.
 
Listen, I don’t care what you carry. If it makes you happy, go with it. But I have never, ever, not once, heard of someone putting a red dot on a small carry gun.

You say you’re 70. Been shooting for 40 years? How many shootings you been in? In the extremely unlikely event of a real shooting, the red dot and trigger mods aren’t going to do a thing. You’re not gonna feel tbe reset on that trigger. And your groups aren’t going to be that tight. Both you and the target will be moving. You probably won’t even have the time to get a good sight picture.
It is probably useful to say at this point that I am not denigrating any of the opposing opinions in the discussion. And I appreciate everyone's input. Really I just like discussing this stuff. I'm having fun. I hope you guys are too.
 
It is probably useful to say at this point that I am not denigrating any of the opposing opinions in the discussion. And I appreciate everyone's input. Really I just like discussing this stuff. I'm having fun. I hope you guys are too.
Go for it Robert! It sounds like you are enjoying your shooting. That is what is important. Life is short enough to not do so. Have fun my friend,
 
How many shootings you been in? In the extremely unlikely event of a real shooting, the red dot and trigger mods aren’t going to do a thing. You’re not gonna feel tbe reset on that trigger. And your groups aren’t going to be that tight. Both you and the target will be moving. You probably won’t even have the time to get a good sight picture.
Since you raised the point of experience in "real shootings" and have expressed what happens during them, how many have you been involved in?
 
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