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Ruger LCP as a boot gun

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Hog huntin Harry, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. Varminterror

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    If you can defend boot carry at all, then the LCP is as good of option as anything, and better than most. Lighter, smaller, and lower profile. Boot carry isn’t a good option, as a whole, but in the context of boot carry, the LCP is as good as it can get.

    I’ve carried my LCP in my boot very frequently, as a backup to my primary carried SOB or appendix. There are civilian defensive scenarios where a boot gun, especially a back-up, makes as much sense as anything. There are some civilian defense scenarios where a boot gun might even make sense as a primary. Less common than the average civilian defensive scenario, but being prepared is better than not.
     
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  2. 1KPerDay

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    IMO boot’s nearly as good a place as any since the chances of you needing a backup are an nth percentage of the minuscule probability of you needing your primary in the first place, and it either failing or being otherwise non-functional.

    however, somewhere your weak hand can reach it would be my one in a trillion suggestion. In case your strong hand is busy strangling the werewolf.
     
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  3. Kleanbore

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    Basis for that?
     
  4. Speedo66

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    The gun itself is fine, but in a one to one situation going for a boot gun puts your face and head in a place you don't want to be, much too close to the other persons boot.

    An LCP is small enough to be comfortable in a front or rear pants pocket, with a safer draw.
     
  5. whughett

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    My first LCP had a Kel-Tec clip on it. I sold the gun to a friend, regretted it so bought another. I haven’t gotten around to installing another Kel-Tec clip but intend to. The clip would work great on a boot I suppose, sure does on jeans pants pockets.

    Added: Just noticed the “backup” aspect. I for one don’t frequent places where one gun, if needed wouldn’t suffice, if one has lost the primary guess it wouldn’t make much difference where the back up was, it’s pretty much time to kiss ones backside goodbye. ;) Just saying.
     
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  6. 1KPerDay

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    Logic.

    The statistical chance of you ever needing to use your primary weapon to defend yourself is very small.

    The statistical chance that, IF you ever need to use your primary weapon, it either fails, you lose it, or are unable to use it is even more unlikely.

    Feel free to disagree. But these are statistically factual statements.

    However as I have noted several times, if you feel better about carrying a backup weapon, go for it. If you carry one you may as well carry two if you have the desire and capability.
     
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  7. eastbank

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    I carry my ruger lcp as a primary in summer conditions, I prefer more power but I don,t like being printed in jeans-tee shirt. if in winter conditions I carry a glock-40S&W or a 1911a1-.45 auto.
     
  8. Varminterror

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    Almost exclusively, I have worn a pistol or revolver in my boot, allegedly, when visiting corporate offices which prohibit firearms on site. The critical differences here - having my LCP or G19 spotted because it printed on my waistband would mean walking papers, and positioned on the 8th floor of a controlled access corporate building means a sudden physical assault requiring a flawless 1.1 second, 4 step drawstroke is less likely than a “Run, Hide, Fight” scenario. In such an environment, slow access is better than nothing, and better than being fired. Equally, in a situation where a primary on my belt line isn’t prohibited, having a back-up on hand to arm a colleague in our barricade in place location is also a tactical advantage.

    Ridiculously low probability, but if that’s the risk profile you’re living, that’s the risk profile you’re living.
     
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  9. dodo bird

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    I’ve been putting knifes, guns, wallets, etc... in my boots for years. It works great unless your walking a lot.
     
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  10. Kleanbore

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    What make you think that. Have you ever had a malfunction? Even if the likelihood is extremely low, are you really willing to risk the consequences?

    Rather a defeatist attitude, I think. One can mitigate the risk of the failure of a primary weapon.

    As a matter of fact, getting a backup into action is likely a far better bet for mort people than trying to clear a jam under stress without takin one's eyes off the situation.

    Full disclosure: I do not carry a backup very often at all. But I prefer it to strapping on on an extra magazine.

    I would not put it in my boot. Massad Ayoob once carried a backup that way. His description of getting to it was enough for me.
     
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  11. Tallball

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    I would sometimes visit a relative who lived in a very high-crime neighborhood.

    I always visited in broad daylight.

    I always CC'ed two handguns. I felt that I could draw the second one as fast or faster than I could reload, and it also covered the eventuality of my primary carry malfunctioning, or me not being able to reach it for some reason.
     
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  12. Hartkopf

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    I don't wear boots so I tried pocket carry with a LCP and I can't stand it. Even in fairly loose jeans, it's annoying as hell for me so I'm looking for a better place. I might do some boot shopping. :)

    If you try pocket carry at least it's dirt cheap.
     
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  13. deadeye dick

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    I pocket carry my LCP. I was thinking of a Sneaky Pete also. Much more convient than a ankle which I have also tried. I just have to move the junk I keep in my R/S pocket.
     
  14. sequins

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    I carry my LCP in a Nemesis pocket holster in my jacket, an ankle holster, or IWB at 3:30 position.

    All are good options depending on manner of dress.

    I also use it as a backup in the ankle slot occassionally while carrying a larger primary IWB/OWB.

    I find it's quite a light gun and it Carrie's very well in any of those positions
     
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    Oh yea! Great little gun for any kind of carrying.
     
  16. Vonderek

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    If you spend a lot of time driving or otherwise seated and are wearing really loose-cut pants then the boot carry thing would work. Otherwise that and ankle carry are the world's slowest draws. The LCP is a pocket gun so that is where I would carry it...in a proper fitting pocket holster.
    Caveat: pocket carry sucks if you're seated in a car but you say your primary gun is on your right hip.
     
  17. aarondhgraham

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    There's absolutely no reason it wouldn't be a great (or at least a perfectly acceptable) boot gun.

    Aarond

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  18. Catpop

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    Boot carry- great idea for an LCP!
    But since I don’t wear boots, I carry in my front pants pocket!
    But no matter where you carry it on your person, it’s better than in your truck when you’re out of truck! Your truck is not an acceptable holster!
     
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  19. MedWheeler

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    I wear cowboy boots, too. Moderator/member Bikerdoc mentioned here once about having to stow a 4-inch Ruger Police Service Six in a boot duriing a time when he was under a significant threat. So, I went and got mine and tried it out for a few minutes. It was surprisingly easy, though you are dealing with over two pounds extra on one leg.

    Boot-carry might be a good way to get a gun into a venue where a belt-gun might be problematic, though I can't think of too many such places where that would be. One could cross the threshold, then duck in somewhere and move the boot gun to a pocket or wherever.

    As a regular carry place, though, I prefer somewhere else. My primary gun rides on my strong-side hip, and my second in a pocket (sometimes, it's on my weak-side hip, a practice I'm trying to become more acclimated to.)

    There was a spate of robberies I read of several years ago in which the suspects were getting the victims at gunpoint, then making them drop their pants, presumably to make sure they didn't have a gun of their own on, or to seize it if they did. In that uncommon scenario, having a boot gun might allow such a victim to re-arm himself after the crime, and he might even have a chance to change the outcome of the encounter if it continues to go south (the suspect makes it evident he is about to execute him, anyway.)

    Still, I don't see anything other than my sock and foot going into my boots anytime soon.
     
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  20. jamesjames

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    Boot carry is great as long as you are wearing shorts. It’s the pants leg over the top of the boot that’s the problem for me.
     
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  21. george29

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    What's nice about the LCP and Kel Tecs is you can really hide them almost anywhere.
    I ankle carry my 340 whenever I need deep cover, I'm not an undercover officer and could probably get away from carrying anything due to lifestyle but I've carried 40 years and it's just what I do. Just make sure your trigger is covered and your piece is secure so you dont fidget.
     
  22. SSN Vet

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    Clip Draw is your friend.... I have one on my LCP and it does expand my options and does not interfere with my pocket, OWB or ankle rigs.
     
  23. Sovblocgunfan

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    I have carried a J-frame in a boot. Used a cheap uncle mikes holster for it. It worked pretty good, but got uncomfortable when i walked a lot.

    As a previous poster mentioned i had it for a high-rise run/hide/fight scenario (i spent a lot of time in a high-rise then). Was ideal because i worked for a company that frowned on guns in the workplace.

    An LCP would be great for this.
     
  24. LaneP

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    I remember seeing dashcam video of a patrolman that got into a wrestling match with a suspect and lost his duty pistol to the suspect. During the scuffle the pistol went into the dirt and it jammed the slide back enough to disable the striker mechanism which was the only thing that saved his life. But while he was on the ground on his back he drew a j-frame snub from an ankle holster and killed the suspect.
     
  25. Kendahl

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    I used to think a thin, flat, pocket semiauto carried in a holster inside the top of a boot was the ultimate in deep concealment. Then, my doctor ordered an ECG and the nurse told me to pull up my pant legs so she could attach electrodes to my calves.

    It could still work but you would have to have the holster stitched, rather than clipped, to the boot and deep enough inside that the gun was well below the top of the boot.
     
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