Ruger LCP fell apart while shooting

Buddy of mine has the sig and loves it!

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Taurus has the WORSE cs in the industry. I have had to use it a few times, and currently they wouldn't even tell me if they would ever give me back my pt145 after the recall. It's what it ended up making me sell it and buying the XD mod 2 which I'm so glad I did.

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Taurus treated me great when the extractor in my tcp broke. They sent me all the related parts free of charge when I suggested repairing it myself instead of sending the gun back.

 

The Gen 1 LCPs are pretty good as far as I can tell. WAY better than the P3ATs in every respect. The current LCPs still have a better finish, but in practical terms I would say they're now on the same level as the Kel Tecs, which is truly sad. I think the original price point was just fine for that sort of pistol, and I think they've done irreparable harm to their reputation by cheapening it up. It's just too sad.

It's not just Ruger, though. I think just about everyone across the board is doing it. The infamous MIM parts have snuck their way into almost every production gun on the market right now. Even Glock had a huge quality control issue with their late Gen 3 early Gen 4 in 9 and 40. Again, it's just too sad what's happening in the gun market right now. I think it's a lot like the cigar craze back in 90s. Everyone wants one, and the manufacturers are taking advantage of the increased demand to take the money and run.

 

Just finished a 3-gun .380 head-to-head today.

The LCP had no problems through test firing with 6 different loads & was the fastest of the three (Remington & Smith) in speed dumps with its shorter pre-cocked trigger.

I wouldn't kick it outa bed.
Denis

 

My KelTec P3AT is over 10 years old lot of rounds . Both ball and Corbon DPX or HP fired and hasn't fallen apart like this copy cat Ruger. . .

Want to spend more Buy a Colt Mustang or a Sig Copy I did read a report if you hold the Sig side ways with slide lock down . I will fall out also when shooting

 

If shooting sideways causes you to fall out, perhaps you should stop shooting sideways.
Denis

 

That's the main problem with Kel Tec is that they're capable of making functional firearms but their quality control sucks. For every success story, there are ten disasters. If you got a good one, that's great, but no one can deny that Kel Tec is a gamble.

 

I wonder how old that LCP is. They have changed the pins on the newer ones. The new pins have a groove machined in them that snaps into the retaining clip. The original pins were smooth. My LCP custom has the grooved pin.

 

Hey that's good to know man I really want to get one of these for my wife.

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Sold off that p3at for the pf9 which I still have. I know Kel Tec gets a bad rap for reliability but they've been good to me so far.

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The pin was definitely smooth, makes sense to add that recess for reliability. In one of my previous post I said that the round that they fired was from 2012 that comes with the gun so I'm thinking it's at 4 years old.

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I have a stainless LCP, had another (long story), and have not had any trouble of this sort. I do remember the takedown pin having a retention groove in it, so unless the spring breaks or you don't fully seat it, it shouldn't walk out. However, the design of the pin with regard to stripping and cleaning the gun doesn't fill me with confidence. I have no way of knowing how many times it would take, but having to pry the pin out with a metal tool, and only bearing against the plastic of the frame (no metal bushing or insert), seems likely to, at some point, enlarge or elongate the pin hole.

 

While that'd be a potential issue with extensive use & cleaning, few will ever fire an LCP that much.
Denis

 

There are also aftermarket tool-less take down pins. I have one in my LCP and so far it works great. You turn the pin 180 degrees and you can pull it out with your finger nails. No more prying the pin out.
https://www.tandemkross.com/Tool-less-Takedown-Pin-for-LCP_p_106.html

 

That was the type of after-market pin I tried when my first LCP's pin first walked out under recoil.

After making sure the "tool-less" pin was installed and turned properly (to engage the wire), I discovered the after-market pin also turned under recoil and drifted out at my next range session. The second factory pin corrected the problem.

Perhaps the constant slamming of the barrel lug against the takedown pin during live-fire can cause the pin to rotate, and that's why the factory pin has the machined offset bevel located all the way around the pin.

 

They were probably counting on that, and in fact, as a backup gun (more properly, a "little gun to fight my way to the big gun"), I don't shoot it nearly as much as my main gun. That it is smooth and streamlined with no projections or sharp edges and corners is much more important to me.

 

It's just not built to be fired every weekend for 30 years.
Intended to be carried all the time & shot every once in a while, if that.
On that basis ,enlarging the frame's pinhole shouldn't be much of an issue.
Denis

 

The micro guns are not meant as range guns, a mag on occasion see that all is ok, then carry. Below 15-18 ounces should be a warning.

 

That's how I treat mine. Occasional use only at the range. It's fun like shooting full power 44Mags are fun! They get your attention quickly!

Seriously, I use it enough to get proficient with it, but I'd rather shoot other guns at the range which are really more fun and accurate.

So far have had no issues with the take down pin, and I have changed it to the Tandem Kross quick change one. No issues personally with either the stock or aftermarket. I just like the convenience of the quick change.

When it's hot and am using lighter clothing, the LCP is my go to pocket gun.

As an aside though, my favorite .380ACP is the Colt Government Model. Too bad they don't make it any more. (The Mustang just doesn't cut it for me).