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Ruger LCR Polymer Revolver

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Dimis, Feb 20, 2009.

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  1. Dimis

    Dimis Member

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    thanks to whoever fixed my title
    i personaly have never handled a ruger with a lock (at least not like the smith or taurus locks) but everyone ive ever bought came with a cable lock or something to attatch to the gun (which i inevitably use as a target lol) its sad the thing hasnt even hit store shelves yet and im heavily pondering being a test mule for the first run lol
     
  2. Old Fuff

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    I think you may like it because of the way it performs...

    But as I sometimes explained to the manufacturer's honchos.

    The general public more often buys on their perspective of how it looks...

    And they, not we - represent where the big market is. :scrutiny:
     
  3. hinton03

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    Old Fuff, I understand that the manufacturer's go the way of the market, but they also play to the avid firearms enthusiast. If they didn't we never would have gotten the Ruger single action pistol or Ruger No. 1, there would be no life left in the 1911 and we would have never seen the S&W classic line of revolvers.

    Granted a lot of people will buy anything because it is new and I am sure the new wonder guns account for a large percentage of yearly sales, but I also believe that most big gun manufacturers do a good job of listening to shooters.
     
  4. Old Fuff

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    Yup, they do. Bill Ruger was a master at doing that. But the pocket snubby market is primarily made up of folks that recently got a concealed weapons permit and want something to carry that won’t get in the way. If it weren’t for the extensive passage of “shall issue” statutes the snubby market would be a fraction of what it is. My point is that you have to judge the prospects of a handgun (or any firearm for that matter) in terms of the market it’s aimed at.


    Firearms enthusiasts tend to be much more knowledgeable then average gun buyers, and may or may not be influenced about “looks.” The average buyer on the other hand is less sure of themselves and does tend to feel more comfortable about something that looks like what they expect. They are also more likely to equate polymer as being cheap and undesirable – which it isn’t. The fluting on the cylinder is very practical in terms of weight reduction, but if this isn’t explained to him or her, the buyer may be negatively influenced by the funny look. The over $500 price combined with the “plastic” trigger guard is also going to be a turn-off, especially if the buyer can buy a Ruger .380 or a competitor’s pistol for as much as $200 less, give or take.

    At this point I’m not critical of the revolver so much as I’m looking at its prospects within its particular market. I used to be paid for doing that.
     
  5. john1911

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    Yep, Ruger is the only gun company to ever recall a product.

    http://www.firearmsid.com/Recalls/Firearm Recall Index.htm

    I see a lot of S&W on that list.
     
  6. Kleanbore

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    Wow, the S&W recalls outnumber Ruger's by 5 to 1! Funny we don't see a lot of comments about waiting for Smith to recall anything.

    John. I think you have dispelled that myth.
     
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    ewww. poly
     
  8. Lucky Strike

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    I'm very intrigued....i've got a no lock 642 that i love to pocket carry but I sure can't get a hang of that DA trigger.

    Less recoil and better trigger pull sure sounds good to me. I don't really care what it looks like if it delivers those things.

    I'm going to buy one but I won't sell my 642 until i put a lot of rounds through the ruger and if it can prove it's worthy of taking the 642's place
     
  9. Dimis

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    ok so its now March anybody get one yet? they were supposed to hit shelves on the first (i know wishfull thinking but worth a shot)
     
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    It only holds 5 rounds. I want 6 or more.
     
  11. Dimis

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    for a backup piece 5 should do it for me
    still no owners?
     
  12. Pork Fat

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    I'm interested, but the $ seems off.

    Ruger makes good, rugged guns that are priced attractively. I am in the market for a Smith 442 and have resisted buying so far. This is due to an apparent $100 dollar jump in the last year at retail. I just have a hard time shelling out $500 for a $375-$425 gun.
    I believe that Ruger could clean up in that price range, but will have difficulty penetrating the market very far with a "funny" looking gun at the same price as the "classic" Centennial/Bodyguard series. We'll have to see what happens in the gun store when they finally exist somewhere besides the SHOT show and the internet.
     
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    I really don't understand the appeal of this thing at all. If you want a lightweight revolver (I don't, and don't understand the appeal of polymer guns at all), there are all kinds of other options out there, time proven, and infinitely more attractive than this one is.
     
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    Doesn't anyone carry revolver speedloaders? I bet the SP101 speedloaders will work on the new LCR.
     
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    I think Ruger needs a T-Shirt that says "Glock This, [email protected]#$" With a picture of the LCR below it!! Sorry, Glock owners but I have to jab when I can.:neener:

    I can not wait to own one!!
     
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    I looked at the specs... It weighs 13.5 oz. My SW 637 weighs in at 15.3 oz and my Orig model 37 Airweight ( No +P rating ) weighs in at 13.5 oz. So the Ruger is pretty light plus it is +P rated. I do want to feel one though. This trigger cam system ( or whatever they call it ) really has caught my attention. I am really interested in it.
     
  17. Old Fuff

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    Question: If the Ruger trigger pull is indeed an improvement, and if as a result both S&W and Taurus redesign and make similar improvements in their respective trigger pulls, which brand would you most likely buy?
     
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    If the Ruger revolver proves itself and it is cheaper than the SW equivalents, I would buy the Ruger.

    Key issues here for me are performance and price. I won't pay the same price or more for the Ruger than I would the S&W. If Ruger undercuts S&W, say at Taurus prices, I would buy the Ruger.

    W
     
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    I've read a couple articles on it, but I think I will reserve judgement til I have had a chance to fire one...

    In my heart I know revolvers were meant to be STEEL

    Bflobill69
     
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    Correct -- especially since the firing pin is mounted in the frame. To go to rimfire, you'd need a new frame.
     
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    It's the supposed vastly improved trigger pull that intrigues me the most. Everything else being sort of equal, a substantially better trigger would be a big selling point for me. Even would help me overcome an admittedly irrational bias against plastics in guns.
     
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    They would have been much smarter to design a colt detective sized 6 shooter. Competing head to head with the j frame was not a wise move.

    However, with modern metals, etc. a new detective special sized (or even slightly smaller) lightweight +p gun would do well IMO.
     
  23. altitude_19

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    Something tells me they aren't actually marketing to the j-frame crowd. They're marketing to the WOULD BE j-frame crowd. Ya know, the guys who want one but can't always pay S&W prices? If this is head-to-head competition, it's the same thing between Oldsmobile and Cadillac.
     
  24. Old Fuff

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    From what I can see, the price of the new Ruger will be about the same as that of a similar Smith & Wesson, and above a Taurus. But it remains to be seen what they will actually sell for in the market place. Ruger needs to recover the cost of new tooling and development. Both S&W and Taurus have paid off those expenses many times over.

    So my question remains, if a potential customer goes into a store, and can buy either a S&W with an improved trigger pull, or a similar Ruger - for about the same price - which will he buy? Or will he find the lower price on a Taurus to be the most attractive?

    Remember, my "potential customers" are ordinary buyers, not members of The High Road.
     
  25. altitude_19

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    Interesting question. If it was me, I'd pass over that "improved trigger" Smith, just because it almost always means it's either used (which I prefer not to buy) or prohibitively expensive (nobody supes up a brand new smith and sells it for a reasonable price). Again, if it was me RIGHT NOW, I may actually spring for the Taurus, given I'm more likely to find a proven design under that name with a sensible price tag on it. Now, if it was me and the LCR has been on the market for 6 months or so, I think I'd spring for the LCR (I trust Ruger made EVERY EFFORT to avoid another recall, but a new design is a new design). Now, if we're talking about the lamo newbie shooter off the street who's just getting into the game and, is as of yet unaccustomed to the price of respectable shooting iron, I'd say it's a sure bet he's going for the Taurus or a good used Smith (eyes on the price tags, the whole time). And finally, only the newbie with money to throw around and a hankering for a 357 pocket rocket will invariably GRAVITATE to Smith. :evil:
     
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