danez71
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Can you please point to the sources for those prices.
Particularly interested is the "much lower" than $209 out the door price.
Ruger Security-9
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Can you please point to the sources for those prices.
Particularly interested is the "much lower" than $209 out the door price.
Jeb Stuart
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That price is gone. However you can get one for $218.00 with free shipping at the link below. I would suggest that you search Slickguns daily for best prices. Also Buds will on many occasions match price.
Ps I also saw the LC9S for about $50.00 more.
https://gun.deals/product/ruger-ec9s-9mm-7rd-blue-312in-pre-order-now-21784
I'm looking at the EC9S in addition to the Security 9. I think I want to add a more compact 9mm to my rotation.
The Security 9 looks well built and capable. Certainly more grip friendly than the American was in my mitts. It's a bit thinner and shorter than my p320.
The EC9S looks like a nice single stack to bridge the gap between my LCP II and a full size 9mm. I'd need to invest in another magazine to feel comfortable carrying it, but that shouldn't be an issue.
Ruger really is releasing a lot of compelling stuff, as usual.
The Security 9 looks well built and capable. Certainly more grip friendly than the American was in my mitts. It's a bit thinner and shorter than my p320.
The EC9S looks like a nice single stack to bridge the gap between my LCP II and a full size 9mm. I'd need to invest in another magazine to feel comfortable carrying it, but that shouldn't be an issue.
Ruger really is releasing a lot of compelling stuff, as usual.
oldfortyfiveauto
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I got my Security 9 today. Won’t get a chance to shoot it for a week or two. It was -19 (F) this morning. Initial impressions are very good. Trigger is decent. Sights are good. Slide seems beefier than I was expecting. Slightly bigger than my SR9c, but 5 more in the stack. The grip angle and feel to me is outstanding. Overall I’d say this will be a great carry gun choice when you want the higher capacity.
I was expecting it to be a little trimmer than it is based on Ruger’s Spec’s, but after reviewing them their specs are not listed consistently. For one they state the slide width and the other the overall width. The slides are basically the same width.
I was expecting it to be a little trimmer than it is based on Ruger’s Spec’s, but after reviewing them their specs are not listed consistently. For one they state the slide width and the other the overall width. The slides are basically the same width.
I'd be curious to see how you guys feel the Security stacks up against the SR series in terms of fit, finish, and durability.
My first semi auto was an SR-9. It peened a bit, so I sold it off toward a Glock 36. I've had a ton of poly pistols since then, but I have often thought about giving a compact SR another go. The gun sat well in my hand, and I'm sure my skill has progressed to where I would shoot it much better.
I understand the Security is a different firing system, but I'd like to know where the economy comes in.
My first semi auto was an SR-9. It peened a bit, so I sold it off toward a Glock 36. I've had a ton of poly pistols since then, but I have often thought about giving a compact SR another go. The gun sat well in my hand, and I'm sure my skill has progressed to where I would shoot it much better.
I understand the Security is a different firing system, but I'd like to know where the economy comes in.
oldfortyfiveauto
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Best I can tell the SR will be a more durable gun. The security 9 has a real beefy looking extractor, but the ejector appears pretty thin looking.
Deus Machina
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I'd consider it at that price, too, when I have the funds.
And if it accepts SR9 mags. It seems silly not to.
Not sure I'd call the SR9 ejector beefy, either. It's part of a stamped piece that has to fold down to disassemble. Not a problem, and it appears easy enough to replace, but not much thicker than that.
And if it accepts SR9 mags. It seems silly not to.
Not sure I'd call the SR9 ejector beefy, either. It's part of a stamped piece that has to fold down to disassemble. Not a problem, and it appears easy enough to replace, but not much thicker than that.
Jeb Stuart
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I also believe the SR9C will most likely be much more durable. I will post a Pic later of the receiver and show the steel inserts they placed on the frame at the stress points of the gun. I am not a fan of the LCPll trigger. One gun that would be a great buy is the LC9E based on the LC9S. I love mine have been shooting then for years. Yet, one thing that bothers me, is the fact that the trigger is so Lite. Hickcock45 when describing trigger on some of the single stacks said, Some are so light, like the LC9S, it is almost like a target gun. Mine has been shot a lot. I feel like it is now down to around 4lbs. I have been training with safeties all my life, so, use to them and so not much of a problem, but still some concern. May have to get a new trigger spring. I may end up buying a new single stack and one with a hammer which I actually prefer over striker fired. But then again, the LC9S is one heck of a nice gun and I shoot it well.
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oldfortyfiveauto
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The security 9 magazines are about 1/2” longer then then SR’s 10 round, but hold 15 rounds. It’d be better if the SR took the security 9’s mags
Didn't want to waste a ton of space quoting your pictures, Gunny, but I'd sure appreciate a range report when you've put this one through its paces. I held one at the last gun show, and kind of liked how it felt in my hand. I'm not dying to have one, but I'd like to hear how it shoots.
Deus Machina
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And the SR's full-size are about 3/4" longer than the compact's 10, and hold 17 rounds.The security 9 magazines are about 1/2” longer then then SR’s 10 round, but hold 15 rounds. It’d be better if the SR took the security 9’s mags
I'd be plenty happy if the catch was the same, and I could toss a small spacer on the Security 9's to use in the SR9c, or the full-sized SR's to use in the Security 9.
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See the photos. What's interesting is while the S9 is bigger, when I put it in my SRc holster it carried nicer. If you look at the relationship between the trigger, backstop area and rear of slide they are different. The photos don't do it justice. The barrel obviously will extend down into my pants a little farther, but longer barrels are rarely an issue. I've never really been comfortable carrying the SRc, it just never carried well. It appears that the S9 will solve that problem.
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GunnyUSMC
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I brought the gun to work with me today. I only put 30 rounds through it so far. It shoots low left for me. Winchester Ranger 124gr JHP didn't shoot as low. As soon as some of my Co-workers show up, I;ll let them put some rounds through it.
So far I like it. It points great , comfortable to shoot and the trigger's not bad. I'll cee if I can get 100 or more rounds through it today.
So far I like it. It points great , comfortable to shoot and the trigger's not bad. I'll cee if I can get 100 or more rounds through it today.
GunnyUSMC
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I have found something I don't like about the pistol. The mag release is very stiff and there is a lip that goes around it. When pushing down on the release the front of the lip digs into my thumb. I will let my Dermel tool take care of it.
You mean the slide stop/slide release Gunny? I don't know about this pistol but some manufacturers don't want you to use the slide stop as a release. They want you to pull the slide back each time. Oddly enough there is at least one manufacturer (Kahr) that doesn't want you to sling shot they want you to use the release. It might be worth a look at the owners manual.
GunnyUSMC
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Yes, slide stop/slide release. Don't know what I was thinking when I typed that.
Even without a mag in the gun it's still stiff.
So far I've put 75 rounds through it. Getting use to the trigger and not shooting low anymore. I do like the trigger on my Golcks and M&Ps better. Not saying that the Security 9's trigger is bad, just different.
TomJ
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Gunny,
I'd check with Ruger regarding the slide stop/release. I have a LC9S Pro and had a similar issue. Their customer service told me it's not meant to be a slide release and that should be done by racking the slide by hand. I'm wondering if it's the same with this gun.
Tom
I'd check with Ruger regarding the slide stop/release. I have a LC9S Pro and had a similar issue. Their customer service told me it's not meant to be a slide release and that should be done by racking the slide by hand. I'm wondering if it's the same with this gun.
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I just got off the phone with Angie over at Ruger. She told me the same thing. I told he that if a one handed man had to use the gun, it would become his slide release. She got a laugh out of that. I told her that my Dermel tool was wanting to get a hold of the sharp area. She told me, "Yes, Those Dermel tools have a mind of their own" then laughed. I enjoyed talking to her.
But what I called about was a different issue. The frame pin, or whatever it's called is drifting out to the left. She told me since the gun was one of the new models that Ruger would like it sent back to the factory. I told her that I had pushed it back in and would call back if it kept drifting out. She said that if it did, to call and they would set things up to have it sent back.
I'm going to put some more rounds through it and see how it does.
TomJ
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I'd send it back. Their customer service is great, and it's usually a quick turnaround. I've had pins on my Glocks creep out, and a drop of blue Locktite takes care of that issue, in case you didn't want to send it in.
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GunnyUSMC
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I just put another 30 rounds through it and the pin is starting to walk out. I'll call tomorrow and send it back
Deus Machina
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Shame to hear about the pin. Seems like it's a hair small for the hole, maybe.
The slide stop appears to be of the same design as my SR9c, which is impossible to use as a release. Not enough top surface area, and even using two hands it absolutely will not drop the slide.
No huge issue. I just slingshot it.
The slide stop appears to be of the same design as my SR9c, which is impossible to use as a release. Not enough top surface area, and even using two hands it absolutely will not drop the slide.
No huge issue. I just slingshot it.
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zaitcev
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If a one-handed man had to use the gun, he'd do it smarter by pushing the muzzle end off any surface. You only need 1/8 of an inch, so even a table top is sufficient. This is well known to any user of Shield, which is similarly configured to prevent the use of a slide stop as a slide release.
Omaha-BeenGlockin
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That take down pin is what has me questioning this gun----just doesn't seem durable enough for a "serious" weapon
Didn't like it in the LCP or SR22 either(lever not pin)----that's why they're both gone---bought both, played with them for a bit and dumped both without ever firing either----not for me---haven't even looked at another one of either of them since.
None of them seemed durable enough for any long term use. Suspecting this new one is the same.
Didn't like it in the LCP or SR22 either(lever not pin)----that's why they're both gone---bought both, played with them for a bit and dumped both without ever firing either----not for me---haven't even looked at another one of either of them since.
None of them seemed durable enough for any long term use. Suspecting this new one is the same.
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Unless I am mistaken this isn't the take down pin. It is a pin that holds the aluminum frame in the plastic grip. Some folks seemed offended by one of my posts earlier but I believe this pistol has a lot in common with the Kel-Tec P-11 & PF-9. Of course I haven't actually seen one or field stripped it so I could be wrong but I don't think I am.
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