Ruger Super Wrangler

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The only thing I'm really interested about is the adjustable sights.

Never had a six iron with adjustable sights. Seems cool.
 
This interests me. I'd like to see what the retail price is, but if they were to come in around $299 I'd absolutely be a player. I already have a Single Six, but no mag cylinder; mag cylinders are pretty darn expensive when you can find them. So, I think I'd rather have another revolver that I wouldn't care to drop/scratch/lose/chuck in the tackle box and keep the SS in the cabinet. Again, it would definitely depend on the retail price and I wouldn't want one of the first examples. Let someone else work the bugs out, is my way of thinking.

Mac
 
Just the cylinder frame is steel? Must be a low grade steel like 12L14, which is what Heritage uses for its barrels. The grip frame, trigger guard, and ejector assembly are likely the Zamak.

With the adjustable sights and cylinder frame being steel, that does make me believe there are plans to release a .38 and maybe even a .32 Mag version.
 
MacAR said:
This interests me. I'd like to see what the retail price is, but if they were to come in around $299 I'd absolutely be a player. I already have a Single Six, but no mag cylinder; mag cylinders are pretty darn expensive when you can find them. So, I think I'd rather have another revolver that I wouldn't care to drop/scratch/lose/chuck in the tackle box and keep the SS in the cabinet. Again, it would definitely depend on the retail price and I wouldn't want one of the first examples. Let someone else work the bugs out, is my way of thinking.

Mac
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The Msrp is $329
 
The steel cylinder frame, plus 2 cylinders with adjustable sights makes me think that the Single Six is on the way out.
 
Seedy Character said:
1. What took Ruger so long to offer the Mag cylinder.
2. Yes, the Single Six is more expensive. It is also TOP QUALITY. They will always sell.

I will probably never own a Wrangler. Had 3 Heritage, hated that crap hammer block safety. Looked to replace them with Wrangler. Found a Single Six, for just few $$ more. Then, another, then another. 3 SS for price of 4 Wrangler. Last gunshow, I seen another. Should have bought it.
3. It is great to have an economical, entry level .22. But, a top tier, quality model is good to have, too.

Ruger has sold many Wranglers in .22LR, the last 4 years. Now, a dual cylinder model will have buyers clamoring to own one. Most of which, I believe, will never or rarely fire a .22 Magnum round.
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I agree with all of this.^^^ Especially the last sentence.
 
Speedo66 said:
Seems like good marketing on Ruger’s part. Come out with a product at a moderate price, wait a few years for the sales to slow down.

Then offer the same product with the features people wanted in the first place, new buyers, and probably repeat buyers who bought it previously.

Personally, I have no interest in a gun made with an aluminum or Zamak frame, or painted coating, regardless of price.
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My Colt light weight Commander has an aluminum frame. My 2 Sigs 9/40 have aluminum frames. My AR's have aluminum uppers and lowers.......NOTHING wrong with an aluminum frames of firearms............Heck you can now buy guns with PLASTIC frames.
 
This appears to be a single six that has been economized.
If so it is a Wrangler in name only. I wonder if it shares the single six internals or the wranglers.

Perhaps it is an attempt to salvage the Wrangler name by replacing a problematic product with an economized version of an established product.

If so, its a smart move. I'd much rather have a matte finish single six for $300 than a Wrangler for $220.

That is, if Ruger can get a handle on their abysmal QC.
 
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chicharrones said:
I'll bet a 50 round box of .32 Mag that Ruger will never make that happen. :feet:
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You're right only because nobody else is currently doing it. Ruger doesn't like to lead the way, they like to follow, copy, and make slight improvements.
 
Now that Ruger is offering the Super Wrangler, I thought we would stop hearing all the whining about the Wrangler. But no matter what a company offers, there will always be someone that will complain that they should have done something different.
I bought a Wrangler because, I wanted a nice single action plinker. I love the look of the Colt SAA, and wouldn’t have bought a Wrangler if it had adjustable sights.
I have a Super Single Six that I bought back in the early 80’s and really like the revolver. But I have probably fired less the 100 rounds of 22 magnum in it.
The new Super Wrangler does look very close to the Super Single Six, but it’s not the same internally.
So, now all the ones that wished the Wrangler had adjustable sights and a magnum cylinder, your dreams have come true.
For those wishing that the Wrangler was offered in a center fire cartridge, there’s probably a Gunsmith out there that can do that for you.
 
silicosys4 said:
This appears to be a single six that has been economized.
If so it is a Wrangler in name only. I wonder if it shares the single six internals or the wranglers.

Perhaps it is an attempt to salvage the Wrangler name by replacing a problematic product with an economized version of an established product.

If so, its a smart move. I'd much rather have a matte finish single six for $300 than a Wrangler for $220.
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The question is what are they "economizing?" The lack of polishing and bluing I can see knocking off a sizeable chunk, Diecast grip frame and trigger guard adds a bit more, but it's still over half the cost. Either these Wranglers get NO QC checks or Ruger has been price gouging on the Single Six for years.
 
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The question is what are they "economizing?" The lack of polishing and bluing I can see knocking off a sizeable chunk, Diecast grip frame and trigger guard adds a bit more, but it's still over half the cost. Either these Wranglers get NO QC checks or Ruger has been price gouging on the Single Sex for years.
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"Single Sex"? Was that a typo?
 
Well I had some trouble with my Wrangler at first but after I bent the front sight to straight it purrs like a kitten now.
Plus I always thought the Single Six is overpriced.
Imo. Might check out the Super when I can find one
In the lgs.
 
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The question is what are they "economizing?" The lack of polishing and bluing I can see knocking off a sizeable chunk, Diecast grip frame and trigger guard adds a bit more, but it's still over half the cost. Either these Wranglers get NO QC checks or Ruger has been price gouging on the Single Six for years.
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Metal injection molded small parts rather than milled. Die cast grip frame vs investment cast steel. Cerakote finish vs polished stainless or polished and blued steel.
 
TTv2 said:
The question is what are they "economizing?" The lack of polishing and bluing I can see knocking off a sizeable chunk, Diecast grip frame and trigger guard adds a bit more, but it's still over half the cost. Either these Wranglers get NO QC checks or Ruger has been price gouging on the Single Six for years.
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As mentioned by someguy, it's not the materials that matter so much as the man hours.
You cut the cost of a gun by cutting man hours. Every material change like mim parts instead of milled is meant to cut man hours, as milling a part takes far more skilled labor than molding them.
A sprayed on coating takes much less man hours than polishing and bluing

It's all about reducing man hours and replacing methods requiring skilled labor like polishing and machining with methods requiring unskilled labor like molding and spraying.

Look at bond arms. They cut almost HALF the price of their derringer by eliminating just the polishing.
 
I'll bet $100 the receiver being steel is a typo.


GunnyUSMC said:
Now that Ruger is offering the Super Wrangler, I thought we would stop hearing all the whining about the Wrangler. But no matter what a company offers, there will always be someone that will complain that they should have done something different.
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Some of the pontificating is pretty entertaining. :rofl:
 
It's not just skilled labor, but also machine time. We can program CNC machines and robots to do absolutely everything involved in producing handguns, but a product that takes many hours of machine time is going to cost more than one that only takes minutes of machine time. The cost of running the machine for 24 hours is either going to be spread out over 6 products, or 60 products.

While I understand the appeal of products like the Wrangler, I would not sell them under the Sturm Ruger & Co. name. While Ruger is not very prestigious, the Wrangler benefits more from the Ruger name than Ruger benefits from having the Wrangler within that brand. As Ruger moves up-market (see the other recent thread "When did Rugers [revolvers] get so dang expensive?"), they need to spinoff some of their cheapest products to a subsidiary.
 
While my primary sidearm is a S&W, I own Ruger single-action revolvers and rifles and I love my Rugers.
Pontificating: If I was Ruger, I'd spin-off the cheapo pocket pistols and revolvers (LC-everything), the Security9, the Wranglers, and the American Rifle to a budget-brand name. I would revamp the American Pistol so it's not a me-too Glock-a-like that few prefer. I would raise the level of the Super Blackhawk's market position to compete with both the BFR and the Freedom Arms (both of which are essentially copies) using premium models and a custom-shop (also keeping the base models and the Vaquero). I'd introduce a new double-action revolver model to compete with the Colt Python. It would not be competition-focused like the Super GP-100, nor would it look ugly like a Korth or one of those frog things. I'd start offering Performance-Center type models with the GP-100 and a new large frame revolver. I'd kill the Redhawk. I'd revamp the Super Redhawk (essentially make the best better). I'd definitely follow-up on the investment in Marlin. I'd keep the No. 1 and begin again offering unique chamberings (not like there isn't any new cartridges out there these days). I'd drop AR-15's (what's the point? just another me-too product) but keep the Mini-14. I'd try to improve the breakdown of the receiver on the 10/22 while keeping the market-leading position. I'd hope for a result like they got with the Mark IV. That's what I'd do, but I'd probably get some things wrong.
 
someguy2800 said:
Metal injection molded small parts rather than milled. Die cast grip frame vs investment cast steel. Cerakote finish vs polished stainless or polished and blued steel.
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Ruger's been using MIM parts in their revolvers for years, so the internals, the trigger, ejector assembly I don't expect are any different than what's in the Single Six. Also, the grip frame of the Single Six is Aluminum, not steel.

Looks to me like for the past 10 years people have been paying hundreds more on Single Six's for some polish and bluing.
 
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