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Ruger vs. S&W

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Fat Boy, Sep 17, 2008.

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  1. Fat Boy

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    I will be buying a .357 mag tomorrow, if all goes according to hoyle...I have narrowed my options to two:

    s&w model 28 and Ruger Security Six, both blue steel with 6" barrels
    I like the Smith because it is heavy, should be accurate, and is a Smith model 28 (read here, coolness factor). I have shot a 28 on prior occasions, and given the weight, recoil is very manageable. I have some concern about the gun loosening up over time, given the inertial wear from the weight of the cylinder as it moves, (heavier cylinder creates some stress on the action as it is cycled) although I am not sure how much this plays into the long term durability of the gun:confused:

    I like the Ruger because it is durable, has a neat trigger group removal system, it is durable, should be accurate (did I mention durability)?:D

    I really don't know what to do- the Ruger is about $70. cheaper.

    Both have a bit of lateral play in the cylinder on lock up. I have read that Smith's may have a bit of lateral play, while the Ruger should be "welded to the frame"....both show blue wear, but I am buying a shooter, and not that concerned about "character"...

    I have tried to analyze this from all angles; I would love to hear from anyone with ideas or thoughts I may not have had...

    Thanks!:eek:
     
  2. rdrancher

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    Just my opinion...I love Smiths...but I love Rugers too. ;)

    I wouldn't be to awful concerned about shooting the Smith loose, but...

    I just think that there's something ultra classy about the Ruger "Six" line in general. It was dropped because it cost too much to manufacture, it's got all the right "lines", and feels oh so sweet in the hand. Stout as rocks too.

    OK, I made my decision. :D

    rd
     
  3. batmann

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    In this case I would go with the S&W all things being equal.
    The M28 is an N frame and will hold up for more than you will shoot.
     
  4. PotatoJudge

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    Both will last forever, so the durability issue is nil. For me, it'd definitely come down to which of the two has a better trigger and which felt better in the hand.
     
  5. Big Daddy Grim

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    I love S&W, but Ruger makes a good revolver still I would go with the Smith.
     
  6. MCgunner

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    Toss up. I'd tend toward the N frame. I had a Security Six and there were things I didn't like about it. Good gun, though, and if you're going to actually CARRY it, I might swing to the Security Six. It's a lighter gun, easier to carry.
     
  7. FullEffect1911

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    I'm a huge Ruger fan, and I would have to say that if that model 28 was in very good condition... I would go for that.
     
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    I tend to agree with MCgunner. I have a 6" 28 and a 2-3/4" Security Six. I love them both, but for different reasons. They both shoot well, but the Security Six is more portable. I won't get rid of either, but if forced to make a choice I'd keep the 28.
     
  9. BigBlock

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    I would go with the six without even thinking about it. I'm sort of wishing now I would have bought a used six instead of my new GP100.
     
  10. stormspotter

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    Here is what I decided to get a while back. I have a Model 19 with 2 1/2" barrel that has a fantastic trigger, so it will never be traded. For me, the Ruger is easier to carry, if I want a "little" more than the Model 19, plus it has been worked over by a Ruger armorer and while not as good as the Model 19, it still has a very nice DA trigger pull.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. CowardRubi06

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    Truth be told for me that would be a tough choice. They are both very well made and solid firearms. For me I would probably go with the Ruger, simply because I already have a smith N frame. Either way you wont be disappointed.
     
  12. SwampWolf

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    Like Potato Judge said, both will last forever. But, at the end of the day, the Smith will be worth more.
     
  13. machinisttx

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    No contest, the 28.
     
  14. greener

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    Both good. Whichever you like is the right one.
     
  15. Loomis

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    If the ruger doesn't have adjustable sights, I'd go with the ruger. I hate adjustable sights on a revolver. But that's just me.

    Also...on some rugers, the right side of the frame just behind the cylinder...the part of the frame that extends out to the side to cover the backside of the cartridges...some have that part being essentially a quarter of a sphere. But most rugers have that part milled out so that the right side of the frame basically resembles the left side except without the cylinder release button.

    If the ruger has the "quarter sphere" shape on the right side, I'd go with the ruger. Just because that is a little bit unusual, and kinda cool, imo.
     
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    Buy both!
     
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    I own several S&W k frames 2 N frames and a Security Six all of which are great guns. Deciding between a 6" ruger and model 28 isn't easy. Both are equally durable even with hot mag loads and both guns have factors in their favor. Accuracy should be about the same but with only $70 difference the Smith has a couple things going for it being a much better DA trigger and being heaver less recoil. Thats where it gets very personal. If you won't be doing much DA shooting or shooting mag loads and will be packing it around the lighter less expensive Ruger is the choice . But if weight is not a factor the Smith is the more flexible of the two.
     
  18. MJRW

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    Get a Glock.


    Someone had to say it.


    But seriously, you can't go wrong. At this point, get the one you'd regret not getting.
     
  19. Don357

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    Ruger!
     
  20. easyrider6042004@yahoo.ca

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    Get the S&W M-28.

    Even if you never bought another gun, you'll be glad to know you already have the best. If it means anything to you, the M-28 will probably go up in value.

    BTW, before you buy any new or used revolver, run the outstanding Jim March Revolver Checkout procedure sticky, it's at the top of the Revolver sub-forum page.
     
  21. Fat Boy

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    BTW, before you buy any new or used revolver, run the outstanding Jim March Revolver Checkout procedure sticky, it's at the top of the Revolver sub-forum page.

    Many thanks for this reminder...I have read that post and checkout procedure several times in the past, and fancied myself pretty good at checking out a used revolver.

    So, today I get to the shop and look at the Ruger; ran it through the checklist, including what I had forgotten until re-reading the checkout information last night; trying to (gently) push the hammer off full cock- I was VERY Gentle, and it slipped right off. So, pass on the Ruger. I gave the S&W the treatment, and noticed something I had not observed in my prior look (admittedly a quick look, at the time)...the side-plate screw heads were set to receive an allen key? or some type of hex driver. I didn't think this was a factory set up, and the shop owner said it wasn't, and that discovery opened up all kinds of possibilities in my mind...so, unfortunately, pass on the S&W. I know that the Smith might have been ok, or might have been repaired easily enough; I just wasn't interested in paying in excess of $400.00 for the gun, then possibly paying more for repairs...

    So, thanks again to everyone for your help!!! The search continues...
     
  22. MCgunner

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    Torx screws? Sounds like it might have been worked over by a Smith. I've felt some N frame triggers that had been worked that had to be tried to be believed. Hard to describe how fine an N frame trigger can be. Hmmm, you might have missed a real keeper there. :D
     
  23. BigBlock

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    Time to start looking for a nice GP100. :D
     
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    I think that's what you really meant to say. ;)
     
  25. Fat Boy

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    Torx screws? Sounds like it might have been worked over by a Smith. I've felt some N frame triggers that had been worked that had to be tried to be believed. Hard to describe how fine an N frame trigger can be. Hmmm, you might have missed a real keeper there.

    OK, y'all are going to get sick of me....when I looked at those screws I thought someone must have goofed up the originals and used these as replacements. There were several questions- did s&w ever make screws like this? If not, how difficult would it be to get the torx screws in the correct size, thread, etc, to make them fit so flush with the side-plate, etc? (There was no obvious mis/fitting or dings on the side-plate edges; it fit correctly- Also, I noted that on lock-up the cylinder fit very close to the barrel end...everything else on the gun checked out except a bit of lateral play in the cylinder-

    I guess I am looking for any information on the use of these torx screws...was it a common practice among smiths? Why? To make accessing the 'innards of the gun easier?

    Thanks again for all the great input!!!
     
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