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Rugged Obsidian 45

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by Bentonville, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. Bentonville

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    I received my long-awaited suppressor yesterday and had the pleasure of shooting my VP9 suppressed for the first time. It is amazingly fun. I did wear foam plugs (usually I wear muffs and plugs when shooting) and the sound was quieter than I ever imagined. Using my stock sights, I was able to hit what I aimed at. The pistol handled well and I had no blowback of debris. I have called Rugged a few times to ask questions, being a newbie. The folks are extremely helpful and patient. I purchased this item through a Silencer Shop kiosk at a local gun shop. The entire process, including forming a trust, was incredibly easy. Simply put, I love this suppressor. It was worth the wait!
     
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  2. MachIVshooter

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    Rugged has very good CS, and the Obsidian suppresses pretty decent, although it is a bit on the heavy side.
     
  3. OARNGESI

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    Was it still loud? My tirant is really quiet just a soft thud
     
  4. MachIVshooter

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    The Obsidian performs about the same as other 8.5-9" stacked baffle .45 cans, including the Octane & TiRant. Your TiRant has Ti tube and aluminum K baffles vs the 17-4 radial cones in an aluminum tube with the Obsidian, so the TiRant is a tougher can with weaker baffles while the Obsidian has very tough baffles with a somewhat weak tube. They are also very close in weight. Basically, the two are dead even.
     
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  5. OARNGESI

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    Sweet if they are basically a wash you’ll love it congrats
     
  6. Gtscotty

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    From what I've been able to find, metering data, etc, the Obsidian is pretty much the top performing .45 can currently on the market. I was curious about carbine use, and per Rugged, the Obsidian is fine to use on super/sub 44 mag and 450 BM carbines with barrels 16" and over, as well as 16" 458 SOCOM barrels with subs only.

    SS baffles are nice, if you shoot lead you can use the dip. My gun find keeps getting emptied by guns, but the Obsidian is next on my list for can purchases. Congrats on your new suppressor!
     
  7. Bentonville

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    Thanks for all the replies . I have been to the range twice with it: once in standard length and once with shorter. It’s really fun. Naturally quieter with full compliment of baffles. It’s easy to take apart and clean. I have no other experience with suppressors but I love this one. I have a .45 threaded barrel on order from HK and I can’t wait to shoot my .45. I have called Rugged Customer Service several times with questions about cleaning as well as just basic information. Mr. Taylor at Rugged was patient, professional, and knowledgeable.
     
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  8. MachIVshooter

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    So, .45 ACP is actually not that easy to get quiet, especially in short cans. At ~7, regardless of baffle type, .45 is just barely hearing safe (if at all). True of the Obsidian in K configuration, the Octane 45K, Osprey 45K, TiRant 45M in short config, Ghost M in short config, and my own 7.0" Phoenix XLV. All running 138+ dB dry. Mentioning because a lot of people are shocked at how loud .45 is suppressed, even though it's subsonic in most loadings. It takes 8.5-9" of can to make it pleasant without the use of ablatives. 9mm is much easier to hush.

    I tried and tried to make a a 7" .45 can that doesn't snap the ears with more baffle shapes & configurations (spacing & quantity)than I can easily count, but in the end I've been forced to go the modular route with my Phoenix as well, adding a 2" module with 5 more baffles to be competitive.

    That said, 5cc of water sloshed around in there makes a huge difference. It takes my Phoenix down 9 dB, from 138 to 130 in 7" configuration.
     
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  9. Gtscotty

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    Just ordered my Obsidian 45 today, for anyone on the fence, they have a promo though the end of the year where if you buy one, you get free from Rugged (in addition to the included.578x28 piston):

    - 1/2x28 piston
    - 3-lug mount
    - Fixed barrel spacer
    - 5/8x24 fixed mount

    Supposedly $350 worth of freebies! Since I plan to run it mostly on carbines and 9mm pistols, I'll start off with pretty much all the extras I'll need.

    https://ruggedsuppressors.com/obsidian-promotion-2018/
     
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  10. Bentonville

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    Great incentives from Rugged. Did you use a Silencer Shop kiosk? The waiting is the only difficult part of the purchasing experience. I even set up a trust through The Silencer Shop that includes my son and me.
    I went out again today with my VP9, my Rugged Obsidian 45, and my son, age 26. My son was amazed at how accurate the set up was in his hands. I was good but he was really amazing. Note: I have standard sights. The shooting experience was more pleasurable for us both due to the reduced noise. Ear plugs were used without muffs. We shot with and without the can and were amazed at how much the sound was reduced with the Obsidian. In short, we love the Obsidian more each time we use it. Last week I shot my HK45c with the Obsidian45 attached. The report was slightly louder than with a 9mm. There was a small amount of blowback with the HK45C that was not apparent with the VP9. Still, the experience with the .45 was very pleasant just not as quiet as the 9mm.
     
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    My buddy has one and he found it to be much quieter using the 158 grain Fiocci rather than 147 grain subsonics.
     
  12. Gtscotty

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    No, I've bought from them a while ago, before they came out with a kiosks. I don't think there's an actual kiosk in my area. This is my 4th can anyway, so I have a decent idea of what what I need to do, just ordered it from E-Silencers to a local dealer. The F-3 is approved, so I should be able to start the real wait in the next week or so...:thumbup:


    Can you see over the Obsidian with your regular sights on the VP9, or are you aiming through the can?

    My main purpose for the Obsidian is to launch heavy, fat suppressed subs from carbines. I've wanted a threaded 77/44 or Marlin 1894 in .44 for a while, but I'm starting to think the smart/cheapest move would be to just pick up a Ruger American Ranch in .450 BM, and run heavy .452 subs through it. Out of 16" barrel, the Obsidian is rated for .450 BM, .44 mag, 45-70, subsonic .458 SOCOM and a few others so I'll have to see what all the host options are when I get around to buying.

    I'll probably also pick up a Ruger PC9 at some point as a cheap-to-feed turnkey host. I'd like to use a three lug mount on any carbines I wind up with.

    I don't really want to mess with the sights on my Glocks, but something like the CZ P-10 c seems like a nice option that comes suppressor ready from the factory.
     
  13. Bentonville

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    The stock sights on my HKVP9 are not tall enough to see over the can. I was concerned before I got the suppressor mounted and fired it. I am just as accurate with sighting through the top of the can. My son shot it and was thrilled that he was very accurate with the standard sights with the Obsidian . It’s a little slower to acquire the target when shooting for bulls eye accuracy but for defensive purposes I believe it’s fine. Suppressor height sights would not look good to me, not that that is a determining factor , and it would not be easy to carry the pistol concealed. My suggestion is to live with standard sights for a while and then, if needed, change them out. HK tru-glo sights would cost me around 160-180 bucks so I am saving a little money to buy ammo. Other folks really like the taller sights .
     
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  14. rb288

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    I use a Silencerco Hybrid on my FNX 45.
    It is very quiet and doesn't affect accuracy at all.
    I do have a Obsidian 45 in jail that I will replace the Hybrid with. So, we'll see how that one works.
     
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