Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Aim1, Sep 22, 2021.
Gun people seem to be a forgiving bunch... there are a ton of places that should no longer exist..
No matter what, I will never spend a penny with them.
Good for you. I wish everybody would
cease doing business with them.
I can remember years back they didn't
even have a store or a mail order
business. They sold at gun shows
at real ctd prices and dealt fairly and
honestly. They even did pretty good
after opening the big store in Fort Worth.
The way I understand it, they were
bought out and the new ownership
wanted to focus on internet at the
expense of the store business, even
after the McKinney store opened
I would guess the backbreaking straw
was when that big AR magazine
shortage some years back was happening
and they would backorder mail orders
and online after taking payment, and
the stores were steadily selling the
magazines over the counter at a huge
markup over online and mail order
I haven't dealt with them in a
very long time, and tell others
every chance I get
I recall people saying they placed an order online for magazines or ammo, order was accepted, then later told out of stock, only to have the same item relisted immediately at a much higher price during periods of shortages.
Their insane markups on guns, ammo, and magazines during periods of shortages did not go unnoticed.
Some say it's just capitalism, some call it gouging. Whatever... as far as I'm concerned Treats You Like Dirt is off my list of places to ever buy from.
items on order, and I had been to the big
retail store and I was telling of people in
the line to pay the gouge price for the
magazines, and these guys were like
" WHAT WHAT WHAT? ! ? I have 10
magazines on backorder with them and
they've already charged my credit card! ! "
I was like, well I was just there, and they
were selling them from a box behind
Same here, Never liked the place.
This article is from 2017
What he says about inventory is true. One in another time long ago I worked in a big retail store. It was in the middle of nowhere Iowa, Ours ads were dictated by corporate off in some big metro city. We never sold any of that stuff. All the farmers wanted was paint , hardware and gun stuff.
“Well, we are going to have a selection of handguns and shotguns that we believe serve the need of the market and have margins that are commensurate with our expectations,” he told investors last month. “But I would expect that in those stores, we’re going to see an expansion of fishing, potentially getting back into the live bait business and really digging into what the consumer wanted.”
Still, Lemonis said his main priority remains the RV business as he blamed the collapse of Gander Mountain on “poor real estate transactions” and “undisciplined inventory buying.”
I am an hour away from Jefferson City, Columbia, and Hannibal, Mo and 1 1/2 hours from down town St Louis. I have 2 Bass Pro Shops, 1 Cabelas, several Academy Sports to choose from. Plus Midway USA and Grafs Reloading to choose from. And that is not counting all of the small local shops either.
My friend who worked at Gander Mountain and stayed with them in corporate when they went to Gander Outdoors said that Gander Mountain had horrible buyers and you would see them buy the same stuff for all stores vs. for the area such as ice fishing equipment in Florida and ocean fishing tackle in Minnesota, he said that really hurt them.
They make money on all the add on items, sportswear and other high mark up stuff from China.
That's why my LGSes have very little firearms or ammo on site and mostly do business via their online shop or through FFL-to-FFL purchases.
That *assumes* that if you drop the guns, all your customers will keep coming just as often. Which is not necessarily the case.
I bought probably $2k of stuff from Dick’s over the final couple of years before they went woke….camping and hiking gear, fitness equipment, kayak stuff, clothes, etc. etc. Then they ostentatiously dropped most of the gun stuff and I have never been back. Academy gets my non-shooting sporting goods dollars now, and some of the ammo dollars (split with my LGS).
Fewer gun retailers doesn't bode well for the future. I remember when every hardware store, Target, K-Mart, JC Penneys, Dillard's, Montgomery Wards and Sears carried handguns and long guns.
I miss those days.
Those that celebrate the closing of any gun store are the same ones that whine the loudest about the lack of selection and high prices of their local gun stores.
Regulations that have changed little since 1968.
Any gun business that finds guns "too hard to sell" isn't much of a business.
I'll bet the employee you spoke to couldn't tell you the difference between rifle and shotgun.....that's how stupid he is.
Losing money to gain a couple sales from gun guys vs not losing money and losing out on a couple sales.
It could have nothing to do with being "woke", it might just be the wonders of capitalism making it not worth the expense to stock ammo.
There are many good stores that were sold out or such to somebody and the values of the origional owner while a success were changed drastically. They usually don't last long at all after that. I have seen local restaurants that had this happen to. Usually the next generation wants to gain financially with out doing any work so they just sell things off for a short term gain.
Yet, they chose to be across the freeway from an Academy Sports and Outdoors. Academy is still there. Gander has been long gone.
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