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Russian ballistic knife....

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Jack19, Feb 15, 2006.

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  1. Jack19

    Jack19 Member

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    About twenty/twenty-five +/- years ago someone imported a Russian ballistic knife that launched the blade from the grip.

    Does anyone remember what the knife was called or who imported it?
     
  2. hso

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    There have been numerous "importers" of the "Spetsnatz knife". There was even a baton version that came with grapnel and other silly bits.

    Having one is a felony.
     
  3. 50 Freak

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    It was called a Spetsnaz (sp?) knife.

    Interested little knick knack. There was even a US company that made pretty good reproductions about 12 years ago. Hard to find one on the market as they are big collector peices now. Not to mention they are illegal in most states.
     
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    The U.S. version was sold without the spring installed, thus 'legal'

    Kevin
     
  5. mrmeval

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    It depends on state law. Here it's a misdemeanor.

     
  6. alwilliam

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    The USA mfg "russian spring knife" in the pic has nothing to do with russian special forces or the real spetznaz issue knife that fires a silent round and is a real rare device.

    This was all just marketing BS by the florida knife company about the whole russian thing.

    I knew a real spetznaz that lived next door to me with his family.

    I asked him about a lot of items like this knife and the shovel etc...He knew nothing of the spring type knife what so ever... but told me about their shooting knife and other very cool items .

    The shovel is a real item that they used a lot FWIW. In fact he gave me his issue shovel and its cover...the real shovels are nothing like the cold steel copy.

    The US made spring fired knives were sold under names like "KGB" or "Spetznaz" knife. Also called "Springblade", "Florida Knife", "Bloody Mary", "Flying Dutchman", "Ballistic knife".

    It was offered in three configurations,there was one with a blade, one with a baton/mace, and one with a grappling hook. On all three the implement was under spring pressure and would shoot off of the handle when a lever was pressed. It became illegal to sell the knife version with a spring (called a Pilum knife), but without a spring it IS LEGAL to buy and sell. The baton and grapple version are 100% legal even with a spring.

    These knives were MFG by the Florida Knife co, Spy Knife co. They were sold by various catalogs, including Edge Knife co, Phoenix Systems, and Southern Ordnance (SouthOrd). Prices were as low as $60.

    They work OK and would auto stab a person no question.I fired one and it went into a beef side about 3 inches... but are very hard to load with the correct spring and quality went way down as time passed until they were just a shadow of their original quality...the lock is very dangerous as its a hair trigger when the pin is not in its place.
     
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  7. 1911JMB

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    Here in michigan they are legal as long as they don't resemble a pocket knife. Also, due to federal law, you can't get them interstate. I wanted one, but due to the federal restrictions making it difficult if not impossible to get one, I settled making for a little pipe with a recoil spring in it that launches a big nail. Never worked right, but at least I tried.
     
  8. jerkyman45

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    All I know is that its illegal to own here in RI. Then again so is a lot of stuff.


    The only place I've seen that thing used is in Commando when the Governator shot it into some guy near a guardhouse.
     
  9. mrtgbnkr

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    "Ballistic Knives" ie. one that launches the blade from the handle are illegal. Period. Federal law.
     
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    wasn't the Russian "ballistic knife" eventually replaced by the Ukranian "nuclear knife"?
    (sorry, couldn't resist)
    I remember seeing those things at gun shows years ago. knives without springs for sale on the table- springs for sale seperately under the table.
    I don't remember being much impressed with them.
     
  12. 1911JMB

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    "Ballistic Knives" ie. one that launches the blade from the handle are illegal. Period. Federal law."

    Guess again. Heres what the federal law says:

    (a) Prohibition and penalties for possession, manufacture, sale, or importation
    Whoever in or affecting interstate commerce, within any Territory or possession of the United States, within Indian country (as defined in section 1151 of title 18), or within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States (as defined in section 7 of title 18), knowingly possesses, manufactures, sells, or imports a ballistic knife shall be fined as provided in title 18, or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

    Heres a link to a thread I started due to my desire to get a ballistic knife:

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=183281
     
  13. GrammatonCleric

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    Ballistic Knives

    These little gadgets are cool. Punisher killed Harry Heck with one in the 2004 movie.
     
  14. alwilliam

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    That was a movie TYPE prop..made from a nato type cheapie OTF.
     
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    I know it says "in or affecting interstate commerce", but in case you haven't been paying attention EVERYTHING affects interstate commerce these days...and at some point, that thing crossed a state line.
     
  16. madmike

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    Hmm...are you sure? There's a lot of "Real" Navy SEALs I run into every day.

    Ballistic knives are the subject of some legal discussion in IN at the moment.
     
  17. alwilliam

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    He was the real deal.....and if not..he was one dangerous and skilled wannabe.:evil:

    I never could get down the razor blade throwing Techniques that he was trying to teach me but I did learn a lot of other very cool skills.

    I did draw the line at the freezeing water cleansing he was so fond of in the middle of sub-zero winter.;)

    I still have the OTK proof marked shovel he gave me and throw it a few times each year.


    BTW...if you ever want to call a fake seal out....these guys are a bunch of real deal ex-cia and special ops dudes that love to root out fakes. http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=199
     
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    How much does the car wash charge you to get the icky bits off? :-D
     
  19. madmike

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    veriseal.org is who I check with. But I can usually get them with three questions.
     
  20. wheelgunslinger

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    I'll bite.
    What three questions?
    :)
     
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    hmmmm

    The Punisher used one on Harry Heck... Actually, that was a movie prop and not a true ballista knife. It looked like an angel blade with an air compressed charge.

    The only time I ever saw a "true" ballista knife used in film or TV was on the Edward woodward show, the Equalizer. Oddly enough, he used it on Adam Ant who was playing the bad guy and proving that he couldn't act his way out of a paper bag.

    The Equalizer fired it into Adam's chest. Looked pretty cool.
     
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    the knife is caled a balistic knife.
    its somtimes called the "russian balistic knife" cause it was used as the spetsnatz close combat wepon.
    it is NOT a spring loaded knife, if you have one and its springloaded than you got ripped off, they are air compressed, its more reliable and they can be fired twice as far, and there is no sping to decompress over time.
    they have a pull pin similar to a grenade, and (depending on make) a button to release a short burst of gas to fire the blade/ a lever that would be the same size and shape but moving it 1/4 of an inch triggers it (same concept as a button system)
    hope that answered you question.
     
  23. alwilliam

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    Do you have pics to back up what you say ? With all due respect ...you know not what you are talking about.
     
  24. Carl N. Brown

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    Launching a knife blade is like throwing a knife or tomahawk: if you miss, you are disarmed and you may have armed your target with the blade or tomahawk if they can retrieve it.
     
  25. madmike

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    They were never Russian, never used by Spetznaz, and not powered by compressed gas.

    Hope that answer your questions.;)
     
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