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Russian Czarist frontier sword ?

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by hso, Sep 14, 2013.

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  1. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

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    Pics won't post from my BB, but I'm looking at a sawback 1832 marked brass grip/guard curved short sword with russian or Greek markings.

    Anyone seen anything like that?
     
  2. YZ

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    Yes, if you post what it says in Greek/Cyrillic characters.
     
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    A bit like a short sawback shasqua with quillions?

    Most likely its a czarist 1827 pattern pioneer sword.


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    Bingo!

    Nice old guy got it without the sheath. Prices on the net are all over the place for the Crimean War Pioneer swords. Repros are around $125 and originals are $350 and way up (+$1,000 for some reason). Luckily the repros aren't marked like the range of these that are supposed to be authentic.
     

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    More of a tool than a weapon. A number of them were brought back from the Crimean War. The fading stamp appears to be П.Г. for quality inspection.
     
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    Thanks!

    Any unit markings visible?
     
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    Can't tell, sorry. Chances are the uniform code did not exist, yet.
     
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    Nice sword! maybe Stephan Fowler will be up to his interpretation of one of those next for me.:D
     
  10. Bartholomew Roberts

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    The markings on the brass hilt are Roman letters, not Cyrillic - maybe some type of import mark? The markings on the blade are Cyrillic: П. Г. (P. G.) and МА...ТО (same as Roman letters)
     
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    The AG on the hilt was a trade mark of Abraham Grah. Several members of the Grah family from Zolingen, Germany worked at the edged weapons armory in Russia.
     
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    Thanks everyone for the info.
     
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