Russian Mak went full auto, shot my hand.

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This happened to me with a Russian .380 makarov.

It happened when i was shooting though. Second trigger pull fired 3 shots, the last one went off out of battery and singed my hand a bit, then stove piped, which stopped the rest from going off (im assuming).

nobody hurt, all rounds went into the berm. it was surprisingly controllable on full auto.
 
Brakleen evaporates to quickly; it will only soften the Cosmoline then rapidly dry. Mineral Spirits works the best. Having removed Cosmoline from hundreds of machine tools, you will have to take the word of a Knucklehead. Kerosene will work also but smells bad.
 
Glad you are healing well.

Forgive me if this is a repeat question--I didn't read all 7 pages of posts.

Did the cops confiscate that "full auto" pistol? Where is it now and what was the cause of the full auto fire?

K
 
You sir are blessed! The hand is full nice little veins and arteries and bones and tendons. The bullet missed them all!!!
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Every now and then, I think on what could have happened, and I get this sick feeling like when you're standing on a ledge, looking down. Then I wiggle my thumb around and think exactly what you wrote. :)


Did the cops confiscate that "full auto" pistol? Where is it now and what was the cause of the full auto fire?
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They took it and stored it. No real investigating, as it was filed as an injured person report. I had to basically re-DROS it, but I eventually got it back. Again, it was a stuck firing pin that caused the full auto.

(You know, that little Mak's been sitting in the safe too long. I think I'll bring it out this weekend. Ken, Rich, consider yourselves warned! :evil:)
 
Most hammer type semi-auto pistols cannot go full auto due to a jammed or broken firing pin protruding out of the breach face.
It is a fail-safe problem.

The round coming out of the magazine has to be able to slide up the breach-face in order to get out of the magazines control, under the extractor, and into the chamber.

If the firing pin is stuck forward and sticking out, it just stops the gun from feeding right there.

I would highly suspect a hammer / sear failure of some kind with this MAK accident.

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Knucklehead2,
True it is smelly, I wear a good set of gloves to keep it off me.
Fan behind you, similar when working with the pot and cooking lead,:uhoh: it helps:D
 
Most hammer type semi-auto pistols cannot go full auto due to a jammed or broken firing pin protruding out of the breach face.
It is a fail-safe problem.

The round coming out of the magazine has to be able to slide up the breach-face in order to get out of the magazines control, under the extractor, and into the chamber.

If the firing pin is stuck forward and sticking out, it just stops the gun from feeding right there.

I would highly suspect a hammer / sear failure of some kind with this MAK accident.
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The Makarov is one of only a few autoloading pistols that does NOT have the cartridge head slide up the breech face as part of the loading cycle.

On a Makarov, the bottom edge of the breechface strips the round, like all other magazine fed autoloaders. However, once the cartridge is free of the magazine feed lips, it must seat itself in the counterbored recess of the breech face, and the extractor must snap over the cartridge rim.

Because of this counterbored breech face, a protruding firing pin a on Mak will NOT stop the gun from chambering a round, and a slamfire with a stuck firing pin is a VERY likely occurrence.

I encourage you to inspect a Makarov to see what I mean. They are different than most autoloading pistols in this respect.
 
All's well that ends well. A couple of thoughts...you need to have your nick here changed from BamBam-31 to Bam!Ouch!Bam!Bam!Bam!Bam! :neener:

Let's revisit that Tiffany comment. Hmmm. Did you buy Mrs. Bam!Ouch!Bam!Bam!Bam!Bam! something from Tiffany's?!

The first time I took my WASR-10 double stack to the range it went full-auto on me. Fortunately I had a good grip on it. Wow...did that range clear out fast!

Anyhow, glad it all worked out well.

Doc2005
 
Dude, you are merciless!

No, no Tiffany's, but there have been a few LV bags here and there for this and that....

Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta go find a tactical rock to hide under....:p
 
Sorry to hear about your accident.

On the other hand (damn, that is a bad saying for this thread!) you will most likely fully recover; you have all of your fingers and and your range of motion is good.

Give it awhile before you do anything drastic like selling your guns. They are just tools, afterall. If you had cut your finger badly with a power saw would you sell all of your tools? It helps to keep a perspective.
 
Yup, that little oval-shaped scar on the heel of my palm is the entrance wound. You can see it better in the second pic on Pg. 5 (it's a bit more pinkish in that pic). There used to be a ring of black crud surrounding it, too, making it look like an evil eye. Bullet went in there, travelled through mostly soft tissue, and exited on the other side (where you still see a decent knot of scarring). The new "webbing" is actually all scar tissue as well. Basically, the bullet blasted off a big chunk of meat from the base of my thumb to the knuckle on my index finger. As gruesome as it sounds, I think it's healed rather nicely, really. :)
 
Now we just need the pics from that range day. Teaching kids about guns include all the bad ugly nasty facts.

Thank you for the experience. May all of us avoid the same.
 
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