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S&W 586 L Comp - neat!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by stubbicatt, Oct 25, 2015.

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  1. stubbicatt

    stubbicatt Member

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    Found one of these today at LGS. Been considering it for quite some time as a replacement for a Glock 19 which I hadn't used for quite awhile. Was able to do some trading and brought it home last night. It is a "Performance Center" revolver and doesn't come in a box, per se, more like a briefcase!

    It has a number of features of refinement that I like, little touches that make it really nice. The chambers/charging holes have been chamfered from the factory. Just a little break in the angle to facilitate the cartridges dropping in. Comes with rubber and wooden grips, and a couple moon clips. I messed about with the moon clips, and they do speed up reloads quite a bit. The muzzle is ported, which is a feature I haven't had on a handgun before. Not sure about that one... The front sight blade has a tritium dot. The finish is blued, but a matte blue - perhaps to give a low reflectivity. The hammer is sort of shaped like a spade from a deck of cards, rather than squared off. LGS dude says it is less likely to snag on things. Another feature I am not so sure about.

    I'm still taking it all in, but it seems very well designed with self defense in mind.

    The action is somewhere in between a standard S&W and a well massaged action job by a custom gunsmith. No perceptible stack on double action, but still a little notchy or stagey. The single action pull has a little creep, but that might wear in with use.

    I've been carrying a LCP or a 45 ACP 1911, or my old favorite, a S&W 22-4, 45 ACP revolver. Mostly the LCP because of the size of the other two. The way I see it, 7 rounds of 357 magnum in a revolver trumps 7 rounds of 45 ACP from a more complicated autoloader, and most assuredly beats the pants off 6 rounds of 380! Reloads are about the same speed as either auto pistol, and that will improve with practice.

    The way I see it, there is less to go wrong with a revolver. Just "point and click!"

    A friend of many years introduced me to the L Comp as describing it the "Cinderella gun." Not too big, not too small, just right. :) It is as heavy as either 45, maybe even a little heavier, but AIWB carry is slick, the round butt making it more concealable than either of the others, and the barrel is short enough to not touch anything "down there" that would make it uncomfortable.

    I'll put a few rounds through it today to see how I like shooting it.

    Maybe you guys are like me, I just like a revolver for defense over an auto pistol. Hopefully this one will fit the need.

    ETA: I wonder if that port on the barrel will capture a lot of lead when I shoot cast bullets - which I will be doing exclusively, reserving jacketed bullets for carry only (hopefully will never have a need to have been shot through this revolver).
     
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  2. bannockburn

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    Nice score! How about after you take it out for a test run you take a few pics of it and post them on here? Would sure like to see this L Comp you speak so fondly of!
     
  3. David E

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    If you're going to carry it for defense, I hope you put enough JHP's thru it to test it,control it and verify point of impact.

    And then shoot enough of them to maintain your Defensive capability.
     
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    The best .357 rounds I've tested out of snub was the remington golden saber, the remington 125 gr sjhp works out great to, winchester pdx1, and the federal hydrashoks.
     
  5. 340PD

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    I have had that model for a few years and it is easily my favorite revolver. Don't get too wound up over moon clips in that gun. I bought about 100 of them and found then are very thin and bend easily. Also, seven long rounds clipped together, they tend to wobble around a bit and although they load faster they are not as great as the hype.
    The comp works best with full house .357 rounds. I did find the tritium dot too small to be practical so I painted the front sight fluorescent red over a white base. Mine is very accurate for a short barreled firearm and a total pleasure to own and shoot.
    Enjoy yours.

    BTW, that port is very large and you should have no trouble cleaning it. Check your dentist for old picks that have some very handy scraping shapes.

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  6. stubbicatt

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    340 PD. Yes, the clips are pretty flimsy, and are not fast to load. They are probably faster than single loading, but I catch your drift.

    I shot two different loads I made for my lever rifle thru it today. I can't say that I noticed any difference in accuracy between them, which is good. One is a moderate loading of 231, the other a middling load of 2400. This is a nice revolver, but the quick reload by virtue of the clips which I had hoped for is a bit disappointing. Upon some reflection, both loads shot to the same point of aim, which I attribute to the port being more effective with the greater amount of gas generated by the stiffer, 2400, loading.

    It shot my cast bullet loads just fine, no sign of leading anywhere I could see, not even the forcing cone.

    I can foresee a different set of night sights in my future.

    I shot my 22-4 today, and it is such a sweet shooter. The 45 on the other hand is a quick reload with clips, as the clips are pretty stout, and the cartridge pretty short, and pretty much they just drop into the cylinder.

    David E, I appreciate your admonition re: defensive loads. Do you believe that the performance of 125 grain jacketed magnum loads is sufficiently different from a moderate load of 158 grain bullets that I would need to practice with them instead? I suppose they could shoot to a different point of aim, and that is something I shall have to determine, but in my experience that point of aim will be a negligible shift from the heavier loads at reasonable handgun distances. - I will verify of course.

    BTB, thanks for the ammo suggestions.

    Bannockburn, the revolver I have is identical in appearance to the one posted above. :)
     
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    That is one sweet looking and performing .357! Only downside to it that I can see is it's price!
     
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    Bannockburn, I agree. It was comparatively expensive. I was able to trade a number of lesser quality, seldom or never used, handguns in the safe, plus just a little cash, and it all worked out.

    Have you seen the prices on some of those plastic fantastic GI Joe AR-15's? I guess it is only a question of priorities.
     
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    Absolutely. I do own a couple of semi autos, but I always carry a revolver, and there's always one on my nightstand.

    Nice find, stubbicatt. Looking forward to the pics.
     
  10. actionpistol327

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    I have several pc revolvers that are moon clipped and you just need to play with different head stamped brass that fits snug and it will really speed up your reloads. I use ranch product moon clips which are relatively inexpensive and winchester 38 special brass does the trick. Can load my 627 as fast as a mag change with practice.
     
  11. stubbicatt

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    Actionpistol, if you please, which brass seems to work well with the clips? I have Starline that I use here, and the clip is a snug snap around that tiny groove ahead of the rim. However, the length of the cartridges is such that they are pretty wobbly, and a smooth insertion is not possible.

    In comparison, the 45 ACP revolver is super quick with clips, and as fast to reload as a magazine change on a pistol.
     
  12. actionpistol327

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    Different clips use different brass I have ranch product moon clips and they work great with winchester brass. TK custom makes moon clips especially for starline brass. You can ask them for different clips specially designed for each headstamp of brass. Either way will take care of the wobble. As for length a lot of guys use starline 38 short colt brass, and reload lots of information on this on enos forum. about the same length as 38 super loads like a 45 acp
     
  13. Barry the Bear

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    I handled one of those recently and they felt great in my hand , especially with the target stocks on these.
     
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