S & W 686: Bad forcing cone!

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  1. Catpop

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    I have a friend with a brand new 686 7 shot 357. The forcing cone looks like it was cut by a back yard gun plumber - rough ridges and off center causing leading with every shot. This is definitely not the S & W that made my m60 in 1975. What gives?
     
  2. Hokkmike

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    I hope he has already contacted S&W...

    Great caliber BTW!
     
  3. Thursday45

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    I just bought a new one a couple of days ago. Love it but my choice was between two 4" models. The one I passed on had a forcing cone that just didn't look right. It was completely circular all the way around but then at about 9 o'clock it looked as if it had been pinched and was bent out out :confused:. everything else looked great but with the other one not having any visible warning signs I chose it over that one. I showed the guy behind the counter and he said, "weird" and stuck it back in the display case.... I may need a new gun store.
     
  4. SullyVols

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    S&W cut the forcing cone larger on my 629 and left tool marks in the steel. It's on center though. S&W isn't very competent at building or servicing their own guns but at least they are liable if they can't preform the work or damage your gun.
     
  5. Drail

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    Seeing all of the S&W "factory defects" showing up lately makes me so glad I acquired every S&W I will ever desire 30 years ago. The new ones are unbelieveably poor in comparison to what they used to be able to build.
     
  6. 18DAI

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    Well said Drail. I am likewise glad I obtained all the S&W revolver models I desired before the real S&W went defunct in 2001.

    What passes for a S&W revolver today is pitiful.
     
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    Can you get a pic of it and post up?(right before it is sent back with a very straight forward and serious note)

    It would be good for posterity.
     
  8. gtmtnbiker98

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    I bought a 625 JM a few weeks ago that had a similar rough edged forcing cone. With the forcing cone defect along with several areas of tooling marks on the bead blast finish, I sent it back. Received the gun back a week later in perfect condition! With the current rush on all things that go "bang," all manufacturers are pumping firearms out with little time for QC.

    Send it back, they'll make it right.
     
  9. rswartsell

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    Maybe they're going out that way because a lot won't come back. That being because they are selling a lot to people who wouldn't know a forcing cone from a ring tailed lemur.
     
  10. gtmtnbiker98

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    So, what is the difference? Curious.
     
  11. Catpop

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    I'll try to get pic, but all I have is a dumb phone. He is going to carry it back to lgs and let them see it first. Then if no satisfaction on back to sw. More as it develops.
     
  12. MikeJackmin

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    Lemurs have a low tensile strength and are a very poor choice for parts intended to contain high-pressure gases. Also, they have these creepy little hands that look half-human.

    Sorry...

    The forcing cone needs wants to be cut square and uniform because any asymmetry can cause the bullet to enter the barrel crooked, at the expense of accuracy. Like a muzzle crown, you'd expect that it would receive attention during assemble and inspection.
     
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    LOL, good on you MikeJackmin,

    Their hands creep me out so much that I refuse to use them even as recoil buffers.
     
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    Update- Sorry so late. Friend got pistol back from lgs . They evidently had a forcing cone reamer. Cone was much, much better. Appeared to be centered and ragged rifling cleaned up. I could still see some tools marks that the reamer did not clean up. I did not get chance to see it completely clean as the shop had test fired prior to owner picking it up and we did not have cleaning tools with us on the range.
    Accuracy was acceptable at 25 yards off hand, 4-5". Due to thunder boomers moving in at range that day I was not able to settle down and wring it out from a rest foe groups.
    Good Shooting
     
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