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S&W CS9 chiefs special 9mm. Opinions of it?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Kymasabe, May 9, 2012.

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  1. Kymasabe

    Kymasabe Member

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    I like the old alloy framed S&W's. Not the old first generation ones but more like the third generation guns and there about. Had a 6904 that I liked but had to sell. Found a decent condition CS9 today that I just had to take home. $299 in the box with two mags, out the door. Went right to the range and she seems fairly accurate, shoots a little right but I'm sure that's mostly me trying to get used to a single stack grip.

    Anyway, was wondering what y'all thought of the CS9? Anyone know where I can find grips or mags? Or decent leather holsters?
     
  2. Shipwreck

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    I've always wanted one of those - new. Only heard good things about em
     
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    Great little guns had the 45. My friend grabbed it. He paid me almost double what I paid. They will only go up.
     
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    Sounds to me like a really great deal on a S&W 3 gen. gun. I love everything about them but S&W bass-ackwards safety. Enjoy.
     
  5. Kymasabe

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    I'm not too worried about the safety as it's a decocker and I don't carry with the safety on, relying on the long hard pull of the DA.
     
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    Kymasabe-i carry my s&w 3913 like that.


    I wouldnt mind having cs9, For 299!!!!! I wouldnt pass it up. Held one years ago, shoulda bought it
     
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    The CS9 is one of my favorite little guns. Accurate, reliable, easy to carry.
    For $299, you stole that gun.
    Congrats!
     
  8. PX15

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    I love 3rd Gen Smiths as well. I still have a 3913, 3913LS, 5906, 6906, CS45.. I "had" a CS9 and loved it, but it is so darn close in size to the CS45 I never used it, so I sold it, and the gentleman who bought it was well pleased with it.

    3rd Gen Smiths are excellent pistols.. :D

    Jesse
     
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    Great gun, I would love to have one. I have the CS45 and carry it a lot, very reliable and very accurate.
     
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    That is a great price. Enjoy it!
     
  12. fastbolt

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    Congrats on the CS9.

    Stainless or carbon slide? Single (left) side safety/decocker lever or ambi? Plastic or steel Novak Low Mount 3-dot sights?

    The earlier CS guns had single side safety/decocker levers & plastic sights.

    I bought an older production stainless (when the stainless model was first released) CS45 and a later production CS9.

    I've shot the dickens out of the CS45 (having had it longer), but i actually like my CS9 better. Just enough smaller that it fits my hand as if made for it.

    I held off on ordering a CS9 because of how well I liked my 3913. It wasn't until I borrowed a CS9 from another instructor a couple of times that I realized how well it handled and fired compared against my favored 3913.

    The 3913 is a bit heavier, and has more muzzle-forward heft ... while the CS9's weight "sits back" more in my hand.

    It has a lively balance, so to speak.

    While the felt recoil has a bit more snap to it than the 3913 using the same loads (I've used standard pressure, +P & +P+ loads, all issued, in mine), the faster cycling and more abrupt 'snap" seem to make come back on-target even faster than my 3913.

    The shorter stirrup and hammer spring makes for a little bit different trigger pull. Probably perceived differently by different folks, so only you can decide.

    The factory tells its LE armorers to replace the recoil & mag springs in the same service use/time interval as the larger 3rd gens, meaning either every 5 years or every 5K rounds fired ... but I tend to be a little more conservative than that with my own CS9/45's. I try to replace them somewhere around 800-1200+ rounds, if only because it seems like those shorter, flat-wound recoil springs are working harder in the littler, harder recoiling CS guns. Just my druthers. I order them a dozen each at a time to save on shipping.

    The CS9's 7-rd mag uses the same mag spring, follower, buttplate catch & butt plate as the 3913/variants 8-rd mags (same mag body as the earlier 7-rd "original" 3913TSW, although that older TSW used a different butt plate, made to conform to the cutaway grip profile at the bottom of the grip). I replace the mag springs less often than the recoil springs, closer to the regular factory recommendation, and they seem to run fine. I use the 8-rd 3913 mags for range use (they protrude below the grip frame) and occasionally as a carry spare.

    Make sure the frame rails, being aluminum, are sufficiently lubed. It's suggested that armorers apply 1-2 drops on each frame rail - tops & sides - (can you see them still being a little "wet", a bit shiny, with lube when you field-strip the gun for cleaning?) ... a drop rubbed around the exterior of the barrel, especially at the muzzle where it rides in the slide's "bushing surface" ... a drop at the front of the barrel hood, where it meets the front of the ejection port when the slide is in battery ... a drop around the guide rod (what's left on your fingertip after rubbing it around the barrel ought to be enough) ... and a small drop on each side of the hammer, where it rubs along inside the frame, but not so much that it'll run off under gravity and migrate elsewhere inside the frame. After you've lubed & reassembled the gun, you can rapidly & cycle the EMPTY gun's slide by hand several times, and then wipe off the oil that has run out at the rear of the frame rails. If the oil runs down and drips of the gun under gravity, you've used too much. ;) Too much can actually create functioning issues as it accumulates fouling and debris inside the gun. Just some thoughts.

    Congrats again on the CS9. I have a friend who bought one of the early ones with the carbon steel slide, and he got it for $369 NIB, as I recall, which was a great price back then. ;)
     
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    Well, to answer your questions...looks like I have carbon steel slide, if I had to guess. Don't know for sure, but a magnet does stick to it and am guessing magnet won't stick to stainless.
    Sights are definately Novak low mounts and I have left side safety only.
    I wish I could find out when it was manufactured.
     
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    Carbon steel slides had a dull black finish and the stainless slides had a plain stainless.

    From the carbon (blk) slide and the left side safety/decocking lever, I'd guess it's from among the early production CS guns. I don't remember the years of the early ones, though.
     
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    Yup, dull black slide.
     
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    Heck of a good deal, I would jump on it myself. Currently looking for a 3rd Gen Smith and leaning towards the 5906 myself just because of it being all stainless and they seem pretty easy to find right now.
     
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    What Kymasabe said. I've had a 459 since 1986 and NEVER used the decocker as a saftey. That's why it has DA/SA trigger. If the decocker were to magically find itself in the down position my thumb would knock it back up as I established my grip, otherwise it would be in the way of my thumb. I'm not pre-conditioned to treat every pistol like a 1911 so it's not a problem for me.

    As for your price, a steal! I can buy one right now, NIB. The guy wants $795 for the blued one and $50 more for the stainless. I can't swallow that. Shoulda bought one I saw on Gunbroker last fall. It had the Bad Dog grips and came with 3 eight round mags. The guy wanted $650 but I had trouble spending that much for a gun I never handled and inspected and he was too far away to drive and see it.
     
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