S&W M&P 10mm - little birdy whispers...?

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I don't know if it is true or not but I've heard some soft whispers that S&W is looking into releasing an M&P 10mm in the next year. Anyone else been hearing murmers that S&W is looking into this?

If it is true I'm guessing that if you've been interested in a M&P 10mm for awhile, now is as good time as any to email S&W and let them know you want one.
 
I don't know if it is true or not but I've heard some soft whispers that S&W is looking into releasing an M&P 10mm in the next year. Anyone else been hearing murmers that S&W is looking into this?

If it is true I'm guessing that if you've been interested in a M&P 10mm for awhile, now is as good time as any to email S&W and let them know you want one.
Great news if true. I will not buy one because I already bought Gen IV G20.
 
It ain't impossible, but its doubtful. 10mm isn't exactly that popular except in niche areas, and S&W can't meet demand for their existing product - it wouldn't make sense right now to introduce a new product of questionable market viability.

Personally, though it is equally unlikey, I'd rather see a S&W SD357VE in 357SIG :).
 
It ain't impossible, but its doubtful. 10mm isn't exactly that popular except in niche areas

Yeah it's the one pistol ammo that was, and still is, plentiful on the shelves around here.
 
They've already introduced the fudd-esque, camo dipped, M&P10, which is nothing more than an AR10, why not camo dip a 10MM M&P and market it towards the handgun hunters, they could even go as far as to use the longer slide, like what is found on the Pro series, and maybe even display it with optics of some sort.
 
I'll keep an eye open.

I have a 10mm 1911, and have been toying with the idea of a G20SF for the last two-three years. I like the idea 15+1...but what Glocks do to brass is sinful.

If it's 9mm or .40 brass...who cares? But 10mm brass is pricey/impossible to find. If the M&P is easy on brass, then I am interested.

Now if S&W would make a Scandium framed, Commander sized 1911 in 10mm....:)
 
I would be interested in a M&P in 10mm. The larger caliber Glock offerings don't feel comfortable in my hand while all of the M&P models have been a good fit for me in terms of ergonomics.
 
I also think it's doubtful. 10mm has a following, but it's small in comparison to the other more popular choices. Sure it's a nice cartridge, but what exactly is it doing that the other M&P models aren't/can't? Sure they could do it, but do they expect them to fly off the shelves? Furthermore why produce a gun that shoots ammo that few manufacturers even offer? Or ammo that you will never find at walmart? Seems unlikely to me.
 
I would buy one, but as others have said this has been bandied around the internet for years and it seems unlikely it will really come around, at least in the near future.
 
I wish S&W would come out with a 10mm. I have a 1006 and some other 10mm's. I think the 10 is a great cartage for power and accuracy. The reason the 10mm is not more popular is after the FBI deemed the 10mm had to much recoil for its agents (they kept asking for less powerful rounds) the 10mm light (S&W 40) was born.

With the FBI and other police deps. Going to the S&W 40 there was less demand for the 10mm's, but the 10 is far from dead.
This is from Wikiepedia.

Performance
Tanfoglio T95 Combat/EAA Witness Steel with Wonder Finish.At full potential, the 10mm Auto produces energy slightly higher than an average .357 Magnum load and below standard .41 Magnum rounds. The cartridge is considered to be high-velocity, giving it a less-curved flight path (also termed "flat-shooting") relative to other handgun cartridges. In its lighter loadings, the 10mm Auto is an exact duplicate of the .40 S&W cartridge. More powerful loadings can equal or exceed the performance of the .357 Magnum, and retain more kinetic energy at 100 yards than the .45 ACP has at the muzzle.[13]

Some commercial loadings are as follows:

.357 Magnum: 676 ft·lbf (917 J) for 180 gr (12 g) at 1,300 ft/s (400 m/s)[14]
10mm Auto: 750 ft·lbf (1,020 J) for 200 gr (13 g) at 1,300 ft/s (400 m/s)[15]
.41 Magnum: 938 ft·lbf (1,272 J) for 250 gr (16 g) at 1,300 ft/s (400 m/s)[16]
The loads listed above are from a boutique manufacturer of high performance ammunition and are about maximum for S.A.A.M.I. established pressure levels in each cartridge. Free recoil energy of the full-power loads listed are 10.1, 12.1, and 22.9 ft·lbf (13.7 J, 16.4 J, and 31.0 J) respectively for these cartridges, computed assuming a 40 ounce (2.5 lb, 1.15 kg) handgun.

Most major ammunition manufacturers offer 10mm loads closer in performance to the "F.B.I. Load" than the full-power 10mm; these still contain sufficient power for defense applications, but their recoil is more comparable to that of the .45 ACP in similar guns. However, some companies do continue to offer the original full-power ammunition.

[edit] Usage
Glock 20
Glock 29The 10mm Auto is marketed for hunting,[17] defensive, or tactical use[18] and is one of the few semi-automatic, rimless cartridges that is legal for hunting white-tailed deer in many U.S. states.[19][20] In regards to its use in personal defense, firearms author Chuck Hawks wrote:

"The most commonly available, reasonably portable, autoloader that might serve our purpose is the Glock Model G20, chambered for the 10mm Auto (.40 caliber) cartridge. The G-20 is as reliable as a powerful auto gets and relatively compact. This pistol comes with a 4.6" barrel, is 7.59" in overall length and weighs only 26.28 ounces. In recent years Glock has promoted the G20 as a hunting pistol. The EAA Witness DA autoloader is also offered in 10mm Auto and the Colt Delta Elite version of the 1911 Government Model used to be. There are probably others of which I am unaware."[21]
Today, the cartridge is used as a high-power defense caliber against humans or animals, and for hunting by those who prefer the flatter carry profile and higher cartridge capacity of an automatic pistol versus a magnum revolver.[19] It also makes "Major" power factor ranking in I.P.S.C., even in lighter loadings.[22]

Despite the F.B.I. switching to the .40 S&W, there are still a number of law enforcement agencies that continue to issue the 10mm including the Albuquerque Police Department and the Anniston Police Department. In Canada, the Alberta Sheriffs also employ the cartridge in the Glock 20.

The government of Denmark has issued the Glock 20 to members of the Slædepatruljen Sirius (Sirius Sledge Patrol) in Greenland.[23] The pistols were issued as a defense against polar bears which the unit encounter.[24][25]

I believe that many gun company's have opted not to tool up to make a new 10mm. Is due to the political climet here in America.
 
Furthermore why produce a gun that shoots ammo that few manufacturers even offer? Or ammo that you will never find at walmart? Seems unlikely to me.

Is .357 SIG any more popular than 10mm??? The FN Five-Seven seems to have its market as well.
 
I never understood why it isn't more popular.

Some people disslike the recoil and have a hard time controlling it. I think in a long bbl steel gun, it would be fun to own.

I wish KRISS would make thier super future pistol with the 6.5" bbl in 10mm. That would be a powerhouse gun. Also would love to see an all stainless Beretta M9 series pistol in 10mm.

I may look for a Colt Delta at some point.
 
I'd buy one. Preferably a 5" barrel. I like the ergo's on big M&P, much better than the G20.
Could even replace my Kimber 10mm? Maybe?
Last time I emailed S&W, they said, "...no plans..."

I'm still pining for a short, light 10mm carbine!
 
Put me down for one with a 5" bbl. It amazes me they haven't made a 5" MP45 yet. Guess they figure 4.5" is close enough that it's not worth the bother.
 
If I was going to get a 10mm I think it would be a Witness Hunter. Saw an HK45-10mm conversion that looked pretty sweet too.
 
Awhile ago I emailed S&W about a 10mm and was told that they were concentrating on other production lines and did not for see introducing a 10mm chambering in the near future. That was before the S&W shield was introduced if I recall correctly so take that into consideration.

I looked in my email to find the email to paste it here but must not have kept it. So take that for what its worth too.
 
Im another who would love to see a M&P 10mm however Im a little biased considering im a big fan of the 10mm from owning a G29 and G20 aswell as the EAA witness match 10mm.
I have never thought the round had nasty recoil. To me its like shooting a .45 acp.

I too have emailed Smith asking if they had plans for a 10mm. Maybe all the emails from customers spurred their interest in doing one.
If so, I foresee a M&P 10mm on the to do list.
 
I personally would rather have big iron if I were shooting 10mm - something like the EAA Witness Hunter.

Still fantasizing about a 10mm carbine...
 
I'd buy one in heartbeat .... "10mm: When you care enough to send the very best".
 
I'll keep an eye open.I like the idea 15+1...but what Glocks do to brass is sinful.

If it's 9mm or .40 brass...who cares? But 10mm brass is pricey/impossible to find. If the M&P is easy on brass, then I am interested.

Why not just get a fully supported aftermarket barrel?
 
Heck I want a 45 pro core model. and 45 super or 450swc can do anything a 10mm can do even from the boutique ammo companies and still shot regular 45acp.
 
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