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S&W M&P vs GLOCK

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by WinThePennant, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. Fred_G

    Fred_G Member

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    Thanks for the info, I need to research this more. Was not aware it replaced the trigger as well. That might make it worth it right there. I don't like that hinged thing.
     
  2. Skribs

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    There are different parts, I do not believe the trigger is part of the carry "kit" but it is available for purchase separately.
     
  3. Fred_G

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    Thanks Skribs, I have not really looked into the Apex stuff too much, as $ is a little tight, and when I look at stuff, I tend to want it more, and then buy it...

    :)
     
  4. Skribs

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    I hear that, Fred!
     
  5. 3twelves

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    The M&P is light years ahead of the glock.
     
  6. guyfromohio

    guyfromohio Senior Member

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    Warp...

    Probably 4 or 5 thousand through #1.... sold it in June. I put 300 through #2 yesterday...

    Here are the first 10 rounds ever shot through it ... right out of the box at 25 ft.

    IMG_20121112_153344.jpg
     
  7. mach1.3

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    I presently have a MP9c. I love this little gun. It shoots great is accurate and fits my hand well. I have small hands so I use the small backstrap.
    I've owned both the G26 and G27 both good guns but I prefer the MP9c.
    The 3.5# trigger on the G26 was maybe slightly better than the MP9c but
    I shoot more accurately with the hinged SW trigger. I am not a competitive shooter. I do however also love my G36 with the lighter trigger connector installed. Oh well, I have always rouletted around with my pistols---one week it's this one the next something else. The MP9c has stayed a favorite.
     
  8. jon_in_wv

    jon_in_wv Senior Member

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    I have well over 10,000 rounds through my M&P 9C and I love it. I've only had one malfunction and that was in the first 100 rounds or so. I have no idea what caused it but it has never happened again in the next 10,000 rounds. Its still looks and shoots like new after years of shooting and daily carry.
     
  9. gc70

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    We have had lots of M&Ps and Glocks in my immediate family (myself, my wife and my son). We have had both Glocks and M&Ps in .45, .40 and 9mm and in the compact, mid-size and full-size models.

    The only reliability issue we have had with either brand was from premature wear of mag releases on the earliest M&Ps, which was a well-known early production problem that was quickly corrected. In all fairness, the Glocks were probably better maintained because my son is a Glock armorer.

    All three of us prefer the ergonomics of the M&Ps. My wife and son say there is not a huge difference in ergonomics with the Glocks, although my wife really likes the Gen4 backstraps. For my part, Glocks just do not feel right in my hand. Strangely enough, that seems to have little impact on how well I shoot Glocks compared to M&Ps.

    While the Glocks and M&Ps are all good, I still prefer steel guns. :)
     
  10. Hangingrock

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    Using both a S&W MP9 and Glock G17 @ 25yds (shooting pairs from standing) with a mixture of Winchester PDX1, Remington Golden Saber, and Speer Gold-Dot ammunition. The Winchester DDX1 ammunition was +P. From my view point there is little difference between the MP9 and G17. I simply don’t get into the grip angle/ ergonomics debates. Both pistols are functional and that’s important aspect to me.
     
  11. Warp

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    Looks good
     
  12. jon_in_wv

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    My M&P was an earlier on and the mag catch did wear out at around the 8000 round mark. I didn't have any problems but a guy who was firing my weapon dropped the mag by accident so I decided to get it fixed. The weapon was back to me within a week and S&W even replaced the recoil spring without me asking. Shortly after that I changed to a heavier return spring and a APEX RAM to give me a little more positive reset. Its still the best shooting pistol I've every had.
     
  13. marineshooter

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    Hi , I have not been around much, so here is my question. I have M&P 9mm, with ammo at a good price is that Wolf or Tula ammo any good for target practice? Will it hurt the pistol in the long run
     
  14. Fred_G

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    I shoot the cheap steel Monarch stuff in mine. I would not have a problem shooting the cheap stuff in mine. I don't see what it could hurt.
     
  15. Warp

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    It is fine practice ammo
     
  16. guyfromohio

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    Cheap works fine, but be aware of range rules.
     
  17. Fred_G

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    Range rules? Indoor range, no .50 cal... Outdoor hay field, nothing incendiary.

    Cheap 9mm ammo, is OK at both. :)
     
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    My range just doesn't allow aluminum cases because they can't filter them out with a magnet when they go to collect the brass. Steel fine.
     
  19. powder

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    I cited a link, with a statement from a S&W LE representative, who is quoted as having said they (S&W) are pulling back from their 1911 sales with LE/MIL-as a result of not being able to keep up with the maintenance programs for those agencies. Competing companies like Glock and SIG understand that proof is often in the pudding of LE/MIL contracts, and that the public ALSO perceives that firearms used/trusted by LE/MIL *might* be a dependable choice for citizen purchase.

    While the OP title pertains to M&P vs. Glock, in the body of his first post he asks for a general discussion of S&W vs. Glock per MIL/LE markets: with the big picture of a recent contract award for 1911s with the Marine Corps, 1911s are relevant to the questions of market share.

    You are certainly entitled to your opinion about which Company ..."doesn't need it." (S&W's business plan). I'm not S&W bashing, but simply stating factual experience from my training, experience, and knowledge from these companies and their respective support, or lack thereof.



     
  20. 9mmepiphany

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    I would think that reading the link you cited:

    ...that one would be justified in taking from this, that S&W was choosing to re-direct their efforts from 1911 support to increase support for their M&P efforts in LE. After all, has there even been a major LE contract in the last 5 years where any 1911 was a contender.

    One might also note that S&W did not competed for that contact and hasn't been known to pursue any 1911 major contract since the introduction of their 1911 line.

    The relevance of their support for the 1911 for Mil/LE would be a apple vs, orange comparison when the question concerns two polymer pistols who are going head to head. The 1911 isn't relevant to all service pistol discussions ;)
     
  21. easyg

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    I've owned both and they are both good pistols.
    But overall I prefer Glocks over M&Ps.
    Mostly because the trigger is much better on the Glocks.

    Having said that...

    I have traded away all of my Glocks and all of my M&Ps.
    I now prefer my Ruger SRc 9mm and my Springfield Armory XD-45.
     
  22. btg3

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    From the 2012 IDPA National Championship Equipment Survey...

    #shooters with 9mm handguns:
    71 with Glock 34
    19 with Glock 17
    5 with Glock 19 or 36


    33 with M&P Pro
    20 with M&P
    3 with M&P 9L

    By comparison, all other 9mm makes were one-sie, two-sie.

    (In .45ACP there were 10 Glock21 vs 11 M&P)
     
  23. Teachu2

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    Should that read "5 with Glock 19 or 26"? The 36 is .45acp.
     
  24. btg3

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    Nice catch!
    I suspect that for the 36, the caliber is in error and should have been .45ACP, as you point out.
    One shooter used a 36.
    There were no shooters with a 26, according the source (IDPA Tactical Journal - 4Q 2012)
     
  25. Infidel4life11

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    I've had my M&P and 3 glock 9mm's for over a year now. Last weekend I went to a two day defensive pistol course and shot about 1200rds through my M&P. It was a mix of federal 115gr FMJ and Winchester Ranger 147gr FMJ. Over the two days I didn't clean the M&P, shot through glass from the inside of the car, rolled around in the dirt, banged it off Vtac barricades and was generally not nice to the Smith. I didn't have a single issue all weekend.
     

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