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S&W Model 57

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Dudemeister, May 24, 2020.

  1. .38 Special

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    I am partial to Trail Boss for this sort of application, and I try to keep a big jug of it on hand at all times. A "maximum" load is a charge that just touches the base of the bullet, and a minimum load is 70 percent of that. It is almost impossible to concoct a dangerous load with the stuff, and it turns the screamers into delightful little gallery guns.
     
  2. Dudemeister

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    I think I still have a couple of bottles of Trail Boss.

    I found the Starline .41 SPL brass and ordered a bag of 100, and I was looking at Berrys 210gr. flat points. I wonder how Trail Boss works with Berry's plated. I had stopped using Trail Boss when I started to use plated bullets, and I've been using Clay's Universal or Unique.
     
  3. silvermane_1

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    Nice score there Dudemeister. :thumbup:;)
     
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  4. jdh

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    8.8 grains gave me 1050 in my Magnaported 4" with Speer 215 grain LSWC. 10s and Xs all day long out to 25 on a B27
     
  5. Hanshi

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    The .41 mag is my favorite handgun deer cartridge, and the S&W M57 is at the top of the heap.
     
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  6. Charlie98

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    No need to overthink this... Unique will get you pretty much anywhere you need to go with the .41MAG... or .41SPC if you must. If you just have to have the 'inth degree of velocity, H110/W296 is your answer, but I hardly ever go there anymore. As was mentioned, 9.0grn Unique under any 215grn commercial cast bullet gives me 1000fps out of my 4" Smiths, and 1150fps out of my 6" Dan Wesson.
     
  7. Dudemeister

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    Well, the bad boy is finally here. Picked it up yesterday, along with the SW99, and boy was it dirty.

    Most of the crap was the blue powder that the original coating inside the case had turned into. The case will get it's proper cleaning and re-work, but the gun needed some TLC. I used some Flitz and that stuff gets the gun nice and bright, mirror like in fact. But it didn't really get rid of any of the minor rust and oxidation.

    So I was looking for sme steel wool, but the only thing I had was 00, and I wanted 0000. I then read an interesting article on rust removal from guns: the copper penny method. Using a 1962-1982 copper penny one which were 95% copper & 5% zinc, and rubbing it on the trouble spots with 3-in-1 oil. The copper is softer than the nickle finish and removes the rust without damage to the nickle. You can feel the grittiness of the rust while you're rubbing. When the grittiness is gone, wipe the oil off, and the rust is gone.

    The only issue with nickle plated guns, is that the rust had already eaten through the nickle, so once the rust is gone, the area left is bare metal, which is ripe for a new layer of rust, so I'm trying to figure out how to prevent that. I don't think I can patch the area by "spot" nickle plating. Any ideas?

    Anyway, quite happy with my new (to me) M57. Based on the serial number it appears to be a 1980 manufacture. Here are some photos. Taking photos of a shiny gun like this is really a pain.

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    And here are the areas that had rust, but were cleaned

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  8. Dudemeister

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    And here is the refinished case interior. I used IPA to remove the leftover powdery blue finish from the molded plastic insert, then wrapped it in red satin. The top cover foam insert got the same treatment.

    I like it, I think the red satin makes the gun stand out.

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  9. Rodfac

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    Nice work...another way to handle a nickle gun that's patchy is to remove the nickle entirely, then lightly re-polish and reblue. IIRC, it's a reverse electrolysis process. Other's may chime in here to fill in my mistakes. Seems like S&W used to do that kind of work, and may still re-nickle it for you. Cost would be significant however.

    The .41 model 57 is a heck of a handgun & that bbl. length will make for a good hunting arm. From light target loads with Bullseye and LSWC's to full house magnums, the .41's one of the easiest calibers to load really accurate ammunition. Brian Pearce once said in an a magazine piece, that he found most .41 revolvers were built to tighter specs than other calibers. Been my experience too, with Rugers and Smiths. And, I've yet to find a quality LSWC, home cast or commercial, that didn't give me sub 2" gps at 25 yds with moderate charges of Bullseye, Unique, Herco or Win 231. For full house loads, I really like Hornady's 210 XTP, with Accurate #9 or 296 doing the pushing.

    I've done some work with Starline .41 Special brass, earlier this year, and had good results. Nothing better than what I've come to expect from magnum brass however. I've put that type of experimentation on the back burner for the time being; preferring instead to avoid the lead/lube/powder fouling that builds up when using the shorter case.

    HTH's and congrats on a good buy. Rod
     
  10. Charlie98

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    I used to shoot .38SPC level loads in .357 brass to avoid that very thing. Some people say it's not an issue... but I always found it to be.

    .41MAG is .410"... no mixing and matching like with the .44MAG or .45 Colt.
     
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