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Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by ontarget, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. ontarget

    ontarget Member

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    I picked up a NY dept of Correction trade in 10-6 HB and have a couple of questions for the experts.
    First, what "frame" size is the model 10-6? And are all model 10s the same frame?
    Second is a 10-6 sn D433xxx rated for plus P defensive ammo?
    Third any idea when this one was born according to that serial number?
    Thanks for any help.
     
  2. jar

    jar Member

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    10s are "K" frames. Since I never bother with +P ammo can't help there.
     
  3. NIGHTLORD40K

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    I believe Smith and Wesson has stated that all of their .38s made since they instituted the model number system are safe for use with +P ammunition, so yes. Modern +P ammo is really only loaded to what was considered standard pressure .38 specifications pre-WW2 anyway, with .38-44 being considered the "hot load" back then.
     
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  4. 5-SHOTS

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    1) It's a K-frame. Yes model 10s all have the same frame size but not all the very same frame. There could be some differences from a dash number to another and they can have two different butt (grip) types, square or round.
    2) Yes.
    3) You can ask here: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-date-of-manufacture-of-s-w-revolvers.372213/
     
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  5. Driftwood Johnson

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    Howdy

    I never understand why folks refer questions about the age of a S&W to another web page when some of us can answer the question directly.

    Serial Numbers D42001 through D51000 were produced in 1972-1973.

    Which jibes perfectly with Model 10-6 production, which ran from 1962 until the Model 10-7 came out in 1977.

    Yes, all Model 10s are built on the K frame. The K frame first came out in 1899 with the 38 Military and Police 1st Model, also known as the Model of 1899. Also the birth date of the 38 Special cartridge.

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    In 1905 there were some significant changes to the internal mechanism of the 38 M&P, but for the most part the mechanism has remained unchanged since then.

    In 1957 S&W changed over to a model number system, and the 38 M&P became known as the Model 10.

    The Model 10 is still being produced today.

    Can't tell you much about when S&W decided their 38 Special revolvers were safe for +P ammo.
     
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  6. Eddietruett

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    Yours is perfectly safe with +P ammo but I can't see where that would be the bulk of your shooting anyway. I shoot my .38's with standard loads 99% of the time. I do have +P in my 3 carry revolvers, but still practice with standard loads. Just run a cylinder or two of +p every now and then to make sure I have the "feel". You don't have to worry one bit about "blowing up" a model 10 with +p ammo. It will just loosen the gun up over time faster than standard pressure ammo but we are also talking about thousands of rounds not just a box here and there that the average shooter will shoot. Back in the 70's I know of cops who carried model 10's having the cylinders reamed so a .357 round would go in and they carried .357 loads on duty but did all of their practicing with .38's. This of course was not a good practice but I've seen many .357 rounds shot through the bored out .38's with not one problem. I'm sure their bosses would not have approved one bit and it was not the safest practice in the world but it did happen. All of this stopped when the Super Vel .38 was introduced and there was finally a .38 bullet that would expand and penetrate. Go ahead and shoot the +P ammo in your model 10. Shoot it as much as you can. That's what it was made for and it will only lead you down the path to purchase more revolvers and join the rest of us with the disease of which there is no cure
     
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    No reason. Every steel frame Model number marked .38 Special revolver is perfectly safe with +P ammo.
     
  9. 5-SHOTS

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    See here, page 11: https://www.smith-wesson.com/sites/default/files/owners-manuals/S&W_Revolver_051517_416560000_WC.pdf
    The possibility of using +P ammunition is implicitly stated, not explicitly.
    It should also be noted that for K-frame revolvers built before 1958, the statement is: +P ammo should not be used. It's not as restrictive as "must not be used".
    I used to own a S&W 649-1; it was made around 1990; its instruction manual had an interesting table with virtually all the S&W revolver models made until then (including dashes) and the cartridge they could fire. If I remember well my 649-1 wasn't +P rated according to this table.
     
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