S&W Shield 9mm or Taurus G3c to carry

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I have a Shield. Just bought a G3c and took it shooting. It shot high at 7yrds. I couldnt get it to shoot point of impact at that distance. I was disapointed in that. The gun looks great, feels great in the hand. It also shot with no issues. But at 7yrds I was having to aim at least 4in high to hit where the 1st round hit.
Anyone have thoughts? Is the Shield the better weapon? Do other G3c owners have this issue?
 
I have a Shield. Just bought a G3c and took it shooting. It shot high at 7yrds. I couldnt get it to shoot point of impact at that distance. I was disapointed in that. The gun looks great, feels great in the hand. It also shot with no issues. But at 7yrds I was having to aim at least 4in high to hit where the 1st round hit.
Anyone have thoughts? Is the Shield the better weapon? Do other G3c owners have this issue?
I suspect the Shield is a better gun overall. Very reliable gun from a good manufacturer.
 
I have a Shield. Just bought a G3c and took it shooting. It shot high at 7yrds. I couldnt get it to shoot point of impact at that distance. I was disapointed in that. The gun looks great, feels great in the hand. It also shot with no issues. But at 7yrds I was having to aim at least 4in high to hit where the 1st round hit.
Anyone have thoughts? Is the Shield the better weapon? Do other G3c owners have this issue?

Shield's probably better.

Try a different height front sight on the Taurus. (I read somewhere (Innernet hearsay, YMMV) that Taurus has those available.
 
I have a Shield. Just bought a G3c and took it shooting. It shot high at 7yrds. I couldnt get it to shoot point of impact at that distance. I was disapointed in that. The gun looks great, feels great in the hand. It also shot with no issues. But at 7yrds I was having to aim at least 4in high to hit where the 1st round hit.
Anyone have thoughts? Is the Shield the better weapon? Do other G3c owners have this issue?

I'm not intending to be mean but you're not really making much sense. Your gun shot to point of impact every time you pulled the trigger.
If you have to aim high to hit where you intend to it is because you're flinching. It's not a problem with the gun.
 
Pistol hitting above point of aim, possible causes:

1) Failure to control muzzle flip. Improve grip position and readiness.

2) Rear sight adjusted too high. Lower rear sight. If not adjustable, file down or replace with shorter one (or replace front sight blade with taller one.)

3) Bullet weight higher than for what gun is sighted. Try switching to lighter-weight ammunition if available (Taurus G-series, 115-124 grain, typically.)

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I just re-read your post and caught this:

But at 7yrds I was having to aim at least 4in high to hit where the 1st round hit.


This actually says your gun is hitting low, not high, if you're having to hold high to hit where you want. Try the opposites of items 2 and 3 above.

Example: My Kel-Tec PF9 hits low with 115-grain ammunition at 10+ yards. These are known for being sighted for 124-grain ammunition, which hits a lot closer to POA at the range. I train to aim a bit high because 115-grain ammunition is pretty much all I can get. My G2C actually puts 115-grain stuff where I want it to.
 
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But at 7yrds I was having to aim at least 4in high to hit where the 1st round hit.
What happens if you consistently aim at the same spot every time instead of adjusting your point of aim?
What happens if someone else shoots the gun?
Are your hits more consistent with the Shield?

I couldnt get it to shoot point of impact
The goal is to get the point of impact to line up with the point of aim. Wink Wink

Personally I've always disliked the double jointed trigger on the Shield, it feels weird to me, I prefer a single pivot point.
 
My EDC is a S&W Shield 9X19mm. I do not own or have every fired a Taurus handgun period. Thus I am limited in my response.
 
No hesitation in my mind. While Taurus reliability has improved, it’s customer service, inducing advice, parts, and repairs, is still troubled. I had a G2C shortly after they were introduced to the market. Very early on the trigger spring broke. I tied to buy one, but they had no in stock and quoted me a delay of 6 weeks to get one. But I could send the pistol in for repair because they had springs for repairs. I sent he gun in. Seven weeks later I got it back. That was way too long. I do not keep multiple guns on hand. On the other hand I has. S&W Compact 22 for plinking. It has an extraction problem. I sent it for repair. Two eels later it was back in my hands, working perfectly. My primary pistol now is a Ruger Security 9 Compact. One reason I selected it was the excellent CS that Ruger is known for. Go with the Shield.
 
“Feels great in the hand” can be a lie. As one trainer, with a federal agency, has said, “Feels Lie.”

Moreover, if one has plenty of shots, on target, with a system, I have to ask, why change anything? Every repetition, of accurate shooting, with the Shield, has helped hard-wire the neurons, from your brain to your hands. Why mess with success? A transition will require firing plenty more expensive ammo, to get back to the same place, where you are, already, with the Shield.

Also, I am not totally un-biased, but anything Taurus seems to be a step downward from anything S&W. I say this as someone who actually does not like the Shield, as it is annoyingly small. (I have handled a Shield Plus, and really liked it.)
 
I confused. o_O

Me Too. It hits high so he aims high??? Maybe he needs to edit his post. I have read nothing but good about the Taurus G2 and G3 guns. I would suggest letting a shooter with a good rep for shooting try the gun out before the OP does anything to it. I bet the problem is the shooter not the gun.

A friends cousin wanted me to try his Springfield 45 1911. He had the rear sight tapped half way out of the dove tail to get it to hit for him. I tapped the sight back entered and took a shot at 15 yards and drilled the bullseye. I shot a couple more mags at the target and peppered the bullseye. I gave the gun and the target back and told him that HE was the problem. Not the gun. And of course now I want one of those guns. :uhoh:
 
Sounds like someone needs to re-test with 115gr & 124gr bullets.

Test using a 6-oclock hold and then with the front sight covering the aiming point (poa).

I have a taurus g2 pistol & it's been an absolutely fantastic pocket pistol. 5000+ rounds in it and not 1 failure to feed/fire/jamb/slide lock back/nada. It has a fully throated bbl from the factory which is extremely rare for 90%+ of production pistols being sold today from any mfg. I have yet to find a bullet style/shape/oal it will not feed. Doesn't matter if its factory ammo or cast/reloads.

@ 7yds that taurus g2 stacks 115gr bullets to the poa using a 6 o-clock hold. The 124gr bullets need a combat hold (front sight covering the poa)
 
Seven High said:
I would try a different weight of bullet before I did anything else.
This would be my advice also as each gun has a particular bullet weight it prefers. Case in point, my Taurus® G3C has a marked preference for 124gr ammunition. It shoots 124gr FMJ and JHP to POA. My Ruger® LC9 OTOH doesn't shoot 115gr or 124gr well at all but is really accurate with any 147gr load.
 
I'd carry the one that you shoot the best. I have an HK P30SK that feels great in my hand and I can shoot it fairly well... but I have a Shield Plus that I can shoot the snot out of and it just plain aims better for me. My EDC is the Shield.
 
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