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S&W Sigma

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by KevinR, Feb 7, 2010.

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  1. KevinR

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    Anybody out there had any problems with a S&W Sigma 9 or 40
     
  2. highorder

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    The factory trigger sucks, but they can be fixed.
     
  3. Cornhusker77

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    I have the SW9VE and never had a problem with it.
    The trigger is pretty stiff on purpose, but certainly no worse than a DAO revolver.
    Some people say the trigger is gritty, but mine never was.
    My CCW instructor split a playing card with mine, so I'd say the accuracy is pretty good.;)
     
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    I've had a sw9ve for a couple of years now and it's been a good handgun for cheap. $250 with two high cap mags and two more free with mail in rebate.

    Mine is reliable, pretty accurate and feels great in hand but like everyone says the trigger sucks.

    The problem with the trigger isn't just that it is heavy, it's also very gritty feeling. It can be sent back to S&W for a trigger job for free or you can one yourself (better) if you have just a little skill. There are several videos on YouTube how to fix, and it's not too hard. Basically removing or replacing some springs and polishing up some of the internals.

    This is one the better detailed one's I have seen, be sure to watch all five different segments.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86yn1zCBcw8&feature=related
     
  5. tntrucknut

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    I have the 9mm. My trigger feels gritty also. I have dry fried mine a lot to help "break it in." Has it helped? There's obviously no drastic difference, but it does help, I feel, in getting use to the trigger. When I dry fire, I aim it and try to keep the front sight on my target. Helps me to not concentrate on the heavy trigger, but my target. Correct me if I'm wrong, the sear block can be polished some to smooth the trigger and take the gritty feel out. I would be happy with a smoother trigger, not necessarily a lighter trigger. It has been very reliable and accurate also.
     
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    My SW40VE has been great. If the trigger's too much for you, you probably shouldn't be playing with guns. Really people, it isn't that bad.

    Mine has been boringly reliable. Eats any and everything. Best $300 I've ever spent for a new gun.

    All the Best,
    D. White
     
  7. hub

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    With that being said, I don't mind tinkering around with my own firearms so that made the Sigma was a good buy for me. If your looking for a nice factory trigger out the box go with something different or you will probably be disappointed. I think it is a great budget handgun and one of the best as far as price vs quality but for a few hundred more you could upgrade to a M&P, Glock, 24/7, XD, etc.

    Just be aware of what you are buying before you buy it, it IS a budget pistol at budget pistol price, don't expect it's trigger to compare to pistols that cost twice as much with out doing some trigger work. Even after the trigger work it is still a budget pistol.

    What I don't understand is that everyone likes to bash the Sigma because of the trigger, but alot of the same people praise KEL-TEC for low prices from the factory and then turn around and do a fluff and buff because of heavy gritty trigger pull and talk about how great they are for the money. IMO the Sigma has a better fit and finish than KEL-TEC but both are reliable. Don't get me wrong I own both the sigma and a p11 and think they were both good buys but both needed a little trigger work for me to be happy with them.
     
  8. Olympus

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    Factory trigger does need attention. I have one and I'm not that impressed with it.
     
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    i was raised on the sigma, in .40s&w. it was reliable and accurate, i had no complaints then and i think they are a great deal and value.
     
  10. deanpf

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    I had a problem with mine and it turned out that I hadn't cleaned it well enough and lubed it a little too much.
    I was out shooting it and the first mag went fine. As I shot the second one the trigger pull began to get harder each round until I actually used both hands to pull the trigger. I took it home and looked it over and (not knowing too much) couldn't see any reason for it so I took it to my GS and he kept it for a few days. He called me to pick it up after he had done a thorough cleaning and lube and fired 30-40 rounds through it with no problem. :banghead:

    That's the only problem I've had. I really don't mind the trigger but I did take out one of the springs.
     
  11. Arkansas Paul

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    I took out one of the springs as well, and have been doing a lot of dry firing to help with it as well. The trigger is heavy on purpose. I'm pleased with mine. I don't know if they're all like this, but mine won't cycle Monarch ammo worth a darn. I was broke when I bought mine so I picked up a box of the Monarch and it jammed about every three rounds. It cycles everything else just fine, even our handloads haven't had a FTF or a FTE. If you're on a budget and are thinking of buying one, I would recommend it.
     
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    If you search the threads of other people who have asked the exact same question, you will find my story. I don't feel like typing it again.
     
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    my sw9ve was my first handgun and i bought it cause i was low on money (paid 325 plus the 50 rebate = 275) and it felt good in the hand. like previously stated, the trigger was pretty gritty and hard to pull but after about 500 rds through it, the trigger smoothed out so its not that gritty anymore (still a heavy trigger though). its been pretty accurate and never had a FTF or FTE after 1000+ round count.
     
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    Gave one a careful look at the toy store, because I'm adding an auto to the lineup. My research was leading me to the Sigma 40. I won't diss the gun because I'm sure it's exactly perfect for others, but for me it didn't feel right.
     
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    i own both and the heavy trigger is a feature not a problem.

    i like both and they are very accurate. i have no problem carrying them both.

    buy it.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Best bang for the buck on the market today. Anybody too weak to pull the trigger should probably be in a nursing home, not on the range. :)
     
  18. RonBernert

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    I have both. Great value for the money. Buy it, do the polish on the sear and a good clean and shoot the hell out of it!
     
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    If your really turned off by the Sigma's trigger or lack of safety then another good budget pistol to consider now is the Taurus 24/7. I have seen them regularly go for under $400 lately and to be honest IMO it is a better pistol.

    My step sister's boyfriend bought one in .40 s&w a few weeks ago and I shot it last weekend. I think he said he got it for $360 from Bass Pro I believe. It was freezing cold out so we didn't go to the range and the only targets we had on hand was some empty 20oz coke bottles. I placed them (threw hard) off the back porch and loaded it up with some hornady ammo.

    I was pretty surprised how nice the DA/SA trigger felt from the factory. No creep and it was pretty crisp, I mean we are not talking glass rod or anything but not bad almost comparable to my Sig p226 considering it was new and not broken in at all. At about 15 yds two hands with no rest, five bottles, five shots, five hits, not too bad. I fired the next ten as fast as I could get the front sight to settle on target and hit probably seven times out of the ten shots.

    So while I still think the Sigma is a good deal for a cheap reliable pistol if your willing to tinker with it, especially at $250 with four mags when I bought mine, I think the 24/7 is really hard to beat at around $350-$375. To me the grip felt nice and comfortable, the finish was nice, the sights are way better (Heine's or Novak's) compared to the Sigma's basic plastic combat ramped rear and melted on front, I personally like having the extra safety for carry, and the trigger isn't even in the same ballpark. It also seemed to handle the .40's snappy recoil well too and I was fast back on target with it. We shot four 15 round magazines through it without a hicup and like I said it was the first time it was fired and he hadn't even cleaned the factory crap out of it. When we was done I took it down to clean and that was simple too.

    Here is a link to Bud's, I was looking this morning and they are having a 24/7 super sale or something. I don't know if this has been going on for a while or not but it seems like their prices are pretty comparable to others I've seen locally.
    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/21_50_881
     
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    Nope!!

    My SW40F purrs like a kitten and spins like a top!!
     
  21. smartshooter.45

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    sigma 40= absolute WORST factory trigger ive ever had the displeasure of using. i actually thought the gun was broken at first it was so bad.
     
  22. DocCas

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    If you are too weak to pull a 10-12 lb. trigger perhaps you should find another hobby. :)
     
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    Cas,I had to send mine back to S&W because the trigger was too stiff. I'm not too weak but I have arthritis in my trigger finger.

    I tried the wolf springs and they malfunctioned. I couldn't even get the slide off. Sent it back and now it is only slightly stiffer than a Glock and no longer gritty.
     
  24. j21blackjack

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    I don't understand all the whining about the Sigma trigger. It's probably one of the easiest fixes ever on a pistol trigger. It took me all of 15 minutes to make my Sigma .40's trigger smooth and sweet. Have none of you people Googled "Sigma trigger fix"? Seriously?!?

    http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/non-xd-handguns/101197-sigma-trigger-fix.html

    It even has pictures so everyone can understand how to do it.
     
  25. RonBernert

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    ^+1!^ Best bang for the buck!
     
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