S&W Sigmas on sale

[heavyshooter]

If you are going to buy a Sigma you will need to begin weight training. The trigger pull is about 50lbs. Glocks are lame but they are light years ahead of the Sigma. My $.02

 

[denfoote]

I've heard those have awful triggers, is that true?

Yeah, that's true, but so does the Walther PPK, CZ52, and the Makarov!!

A couple of hundred double action rounds out of your James Bond special will make you crave your Sigma!!

 

[ugaarguy]

Yes, they shouldn't have a gun at all.

Thank you for clarifying.

A used Glock is not worth $250 so you would have to pony up more cash. A new sigma is worth maybe $200 not $250, so there's $50 toward the Glock right there!

Your logic is flawed. The free market has established, through sales at the price point, that a new Sigma is worth $300 to $330; or $250 - $280 when S&W wants to make a push for more market share.

In the interest of transparency I'll tell you that I have owned both a Glock 22 and a Sigma 9V (pre-enhanced model). I now own neither. I found through trial and error that I shoot 1911s better than almost all other pistols. My current cheap gun is a police trade-in S&W 5946.

"So why do I like Sigmas", you ask? As I said earlier I'm a part time gun store salesman. Most folks here on THR understand that good used guns are a tremendous value. Many in the general public don't. If the general public didn't buy new guns there wouldn't be so many used ones for the gunny public; but I digress. John Q. Public wants a new 9mm or 40 S&W pistol, and want's to spend $300, $350 max. The Sigma gives me a US made gun that I can sell at that price point, and have a clear conscience after the sale because they work.

I like Glocks for a similar reason: they're amongst the best three or four makes of pistols at the $500 new price point. They work. Parts are everywhere, and so are armorers to customize them (Glocks rarely actually break). Mags are cheap and readily available too.

 

[rkhal]

That said, if you cant hit the torso of a bad guy from 20' with one, your not a very good shot..

I never said I couldn't hit a target with it..jeez I maybe a girly man according to you but let's draw a line somewhere on the insults. If you go back and read what I said it was that if you can do something with bad tools you can do better with good tools. No matter how well you can train yourself to shoot with a Sigma you could do better if you didn't have to fight the trigger.

So yes, I can hit a target considerably smaller than a mansized torso at 20 feet with a Sigma. I can shoot even smaller groups with my S&W model 19 shooting double action. I can shoot still smaller groups with my Glock. Shooting the S&W single action I can get still smaller groups.

Now with that in mind, most people's shooting goes to hell in a handbasket under true combat conditions so why handicap yourself? In my experience the Hi-Point is just as dependable and has a better trigger. Having shot both I would rather have the HP assuming I was limited to a gun under $300. However for $300 I could get a Ruger or a Tanfoglio or something similar used and that would be a better deal.

Perhaps part of my dislike is that S&W flat copied the Glock to the point that they had to pay royalties to Glock for every Sigma they sell. That being the case how did they screw up the trigger so badly?

 

[ugaarguy]

Perhaps part of my dislike is that S&W flat copied the Glock to the point that they had to pay royalties to Glock for every Sigma they sell. That being the case how did they screw up the trigger so badly?

They aren't paying royalties to Glock. As I posted above the Sigma now has 14 of its own patents. The current VE Sigmas are a far cry from the early F Sigmas.

 

[barry960]

My Sigma is from back when they cost over $400 and were the only other polymer pistol out there of any major manufacturer besides Glocks, so it kind of hurt when the prices dropped way down. Anyway, the front sight fell off, but a good smith put a steel one on like it should have been in the first place, and now I think it is a handgun I'll keep for life. It's my main carry gun and I feel pretty good about where I can place my shots with it.

 

[legion3]

Your logic is flawed. The free market has established, through sales at the price point, that a new Sigma is worth $300 to $330; or $250 - $280 when S&W wants to make a push for more market share.

The same "Free" market that decided houses were worth 10 times real value?

However, you take on Glock was spot on.