S&W's New SD9 & SD40 - Anyone handle one?

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Looks like a new Sigma.

Great, now I'm going to have to ask every time, did you say "SD40" or "XD40"?

BTW, I love how on the product page thay say "Standard Capacity" and "Low Capacity" :)
 
You think they just rebranded the Sigma, and added "Self Defense" to the front of it as a marketing scheme?
 
What's the purpose of this SD gun? Is it just a slightly improved Sigma, or a completely new gun? Does it do anything the M&P won't?
 
I bet it costs less than the M&P. I think it is either a replacement for the Sigma, or an intermediate between the Sigma and the M&P, which I still refuse to believe is not an improved Sigma. This is just a more inexpensively-improved Sigma it looks like, and I support that. More levels of pistol are better.

I think for the most part the changes are good ones, personally I could care less about forward serrations, but whatever.
 
I believe we have another thread on this from a few weeks back.

The price will be between the current Sigma and the M&P.

The biggest complaints against the Sigma have always been the proprietary rail and the heavy trigger. I've always felt the Sigma felt good in the hand.

You can see from the pictures the rail has been addressed and they make mention of their new trigger. With all the progress from after-market folks for the M&P trigger and the "home" remedies developed over the years since the first Sigma came out it is certainly logical to assume this pistol will have a better trigger than the Sigma. I'll be interested to see what that feels like. If the trigger is reasonable it could be a big winner for S&W.
 
Looks like a rebranded Sigma. A rebranded Sigma with a $50 price increase.
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with the M&P trigger and a tritium front sight for a lot less then the M&P and barely above the Sigma.

I think its a good mix
 
I'm still looking to handle one soon.

I too agree that the Sigma's feel good
 
Shot one today!...

Friend got it at the gun show and we went shooting afterwards.

Its a nice gun!... I am very impressed. The trigger is identical to my Stock M&P 40. The fit/finish is M&P quality and the Tritium front sight is a nice touch. He paid $419 for it. The same booth was selling the Sigma for $359 the SD9 for $419 and the M&P for $519.

Its a nice firearm!... I was hoping it would have the M&P trigger and it did not disappoint. It shot just as accurate as my M&P and recoil felt the same as well.

Its gonna be a good seller!
 
Things that are clearly an improvement over the Sigma series:

1. Picatinny Rail. Unlike the weird weaver-rail that made us all buy the Laserlyte rail, the SD comes with it included. +1 for the SD.

2. SD's come in a matte-black finish. Sigma is SS.

3. Textured Frame.

Oh who am I kidding, this IS a Sigma. Despite the minor differences it looks like a Sigma, weighs about the same as a Sigma, and has the same mag capacity. What are we really getting? In fact, look closely. I see a resemblance to the XD.
 
Things that are clearly an improvement over the Sigma series:

1. Picatinny Rail. Unlike the weird weaver-rail that made us all buy the Laserlyte rail, the SD comes with it included. +1 for the SD.

2. SD's come in a matte-black finish. Sigma is SS.

3. Textured Frame.

Oh who am I kidding, this IS a Sigma. Despite the minor differences it looks like a Sigma, weighs about the same as a Sigma, and has the same mag capacity. What are we really getting? In fact, look closely. I see a resemblance to the XD.
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Read the post RIGHT above yours.

As an owner of several sigma's and several M&P's... the SD is leaps and bounds better than the Sigma.

Im speaking from first hand experience. This hopefully will phase out the Sigma and S&W will now have 2 very respected polymer handguns instead of 1 budget gun and 1 quality gun.

JOe
 
The only thing I see as an improvement is the trigger.

It is still a Sigma, the one S&W product I had to return to the factory more than any Taurus.
 
This is very interesting development. Can't wait to shoot one.

For many potential buyers in the Sigma/P95/Taurus price range ($350-$400), new SD may tip the scale for S&W:

- Popular 9mm/40S&W caliber
- High capacity magazine (notice the rounded mag base - wonder if mags are interchangeable with Sigma?)
- Good grip (I always liked the Sigma grip, but not the trigger)
- Now good trigger (M&P like? that's great)
- Standard rail
- Tritium front sight (nice touch)
 
SD's come in a matte-black finish. Sigma is SS.
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They've varied over the years, but 'bout all my Sigmas were black. Not much on two-tone guns (well, maybe a BBQ gun/safe queen), but I did have one Sigma two-tone (they pretty much gave it to me). I think they currently show one in the catalog (Afghanistan police model etc?) but I never see the all black ones in shops.

Think at one time I had 'bout 6 of the darn things in black-they were practically giving 'em away, and I built a pretty good set of S&W travel luggage-they were giving rebates and free bags.

Everybody I sold 'em to has been happy with 'em (a lot of folks getting into SD)-I'm down to my last Sigma-an SW9V (all black, factory Novak Trijicon sights) which has been my bed gun for around 12 years. Finally gonna retire it and replace it with a SIG SP2022 (picatinney rail, and used the money needed to replace the Sigma night sights towards the SIG purchase).

Yeah, the new models look like updated Sigmas, which to me ain't a bad thing.
Biggest difference/upgrade for an old Sigma owner would be the universal rail, the thumb rest is nice, and more texture on the grip (I put Hogue HandAlls on mine). I never had a problem with the Sigma trigger.
 
Guns shops are starting to receive these. I just handled a SD40 on Friday at a local shop. It feels just like a sigma and the trigger is still kind of heavy. I really like the sights though. I think it was priced at $380.
 
I handled a SD40 today at the shop and I was actually quite impressed with it. The grip ergos and texture were great. It is also slimmer in the grip and seemed slimmer in the slide than the M&P. The trigger was smooth enough but it was heavier than the M&P. It also seemed to have a longer (but more positive) reset. The sights were good and the tritium front sight was a nice touch. Over all I would say it looks like a great weapon for the price. I'm interested to see what the 45 will be like. A compact would also be interesting.

The only real criticism I had of it was the material of the frame. The plastic had a much cheaper feel than the M&P. It felt better than a Keltec but not up to Glock or M&P standards. It was very well molded however.
 
My local shop got one in not too long ago.

Looks like an updated and much more attractive version of the Sigma. The shop wanted about $450 which seemed a bit steep IMO.

The trigger was absolutely god awful!!!:barf:

Seriously I really liked the look and feel of this gun but after testing the trigger once I handed it back to the clerk very quickly and told him no thanks. The trigger felt nothing like the trigger on my M&P and I actually think the Sigma trigger felt better!
 
The one I handled felt very much like the M&P but with a heavier pull and a slightly longer and more positive reset. No doubt it has a heavier return spring. It definitely wasn't too heavy to preclude good shooting with it.
 
What I don't understand is why won't S&W just change the trigger? Everyone I try to sell the shmegma to, err I mean the pride of the Iraqi Army's "Sigma" to hates the trigger.
 
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