SA 1911 plunger tube came loose today

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by ArizonaTRex, Jul 1, 2009.

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  1. 1911Tuner

    1911Tuner Moderator Emeritus

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    Foul Moods

    Chuck...I'm so 'nuff sorry about your foul mood, but you can't put me in one.
    You came onto this thread to pick a fight...and you just know that Ah'm yuh Huckleberry. ;)

    For those who came in late, and don't understand what this is about...I'll outline a few differences between the high end smiths like Mr. Rogers and myself.

    1. Chuck Rogers is a world-class pistolsmith. I'm a mechanic.

    2. He builds expensive, high-end 1911 pistols. I do mostly simple repairs for guys whose pistols are having a little trouble adjusting to their never-intended roles as actual shooters...pressed into service by people who actually expect them to work out of the box. I know. It's a strange thing to expect from a 450-dollar pistol...but there it is.


    3. For every guy or gal who can afford the services of a smith of his class, there are 50 who either can't afford it...or can't justify it. These people buy the Springfield or Rock Island mil-spec pistols because they want to shoot a little, and maybe carry the guns if they're reliable enough. So...I try to help these po' boys who just invested a week's pay...or more...for a knock-around pistol with issues.
    People who...after they discover that a trip to a "real" gunsmith is gonna cost about half of what they gave for the gun...become a bit concerned. Too honest to pass it off onto somebody else...they're stuck with a dog that won't hunt.

    4. I don't have enough small parts on hand to build 25 guns...so most of the time, I have to work with what I have...which often means that I have to restake an existing plunger tube. :eek: It will probably last the owner's lifetime, because most of these folks won't shoot the guns more than 500 times a year...and in the course of those 500 rounds...it's doubtful if they'll engage the thumb safety more than 8 or 10 times. I do advise them that restaking won't likely last forever, especially if they do a lot of on/off cycles with the safety...and that they may want to order one from Brownells so that when it comes loose again...we can install a new one and be done with it. Meantime, they have a functional pistol.

    Now, my question is:

    Why do you seem to have such a problem with that?
     
  2. alan

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    The plunger tube came off my Kimber Classic Custom Target, when it was fairly new, though out of warranty. Kimber provided a new aassembly, and I had it installed locally.

    That was the first and only time I ever saw/heard of such a problem, however "stuff happens"..
     
  3. ArizonaTRex

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    I am willing to pay what I feel is a reasonable fee, especially on something I am am unfamilar with. Every business has a per hour fee they need to get. Prices vary across the country, and even by city. And money is tight right now...:(

    If I took the time and got the books I would have no problem doing the work myself. I still have my first car manual, to fix my 66 dodge! Cars and motors I know, and this is the first gun that has ever broken on me in 40 years. Sure I could figure it out-but I like the shop and the smith, he needs the work.

    Now I just came from the shop, parts on the way, and yes we spent 20 minutes jawing about it (again). He was willing and had the time-it was after quitting time but he spent the effort to be nice to a customer.

    If he had quoted a much higher price I would have balked and probally spent way more buying books (just one book is never enough) and the tool(s) if needed! :D

    I mean geez I work at a business that has a mill, a lathe, drill press, grinders, hydraulic press, arbor presses and three roll around tool chests (and on and on)-and we aren't even a repair shop! :rolleyes:

    And if we wanna argue and get cranky- my '66 mustang with a 351W was faster, but my '68 Camero w/350 was more comfortable to drive and my '66 Coronet was slowest-but had A/C :D

    notice a theme? partial to the decade-not the platform!

    Flame On!
    And the 1911 just shoots better for me than my glock!
     
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