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"sad -- creator of COPS -- killed"

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by David, Mar 16, 2003.

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  1. David

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  2. outfieldjack

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    Too Bad....

    I really enjoy watching "COPS"
     
  3. tyme

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    No body? Not to add to the grief, but why do reporters call things (deaths, elections) early? Just the facts, Jack.
     
  4. Braz

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    Now that's wierd. Hitchcockesque.
     
  5. AK103K

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    I sorry to hear the boy died, and wouldnt wish that on anyone. But I think the show COPS is nothing more than a propaganda show, telling the average brain dead American TV viewer that you cant win against authority, at any level. Its just constant re-enforcement over and over, a typical propaganda principle. These type shows are more than just simple entertainment, they are a big part of population control.
     
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    Next Fox Special, "When gravity attacks!"
     
  7. AK103K

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    Now thats funny! :D
     
  8. twoblink

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    I had a friend tell me "You know what I learned from watching the movie "COPS?" I learned that if the helicopter shows up, you are screwed, so if you want to get away, do it before the helo shows up!" heheheh So true!

    Sad..
     
  9. J Miller

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    :( My condolences to his family and friends.

    But I agree with AK103K.

    I watched one episode where this guy was holding an AR7 Suvival rifle and called it a "Hi Capacity Semi Automatic Assult Rifle". My wife can attest to the fact I was ranting about that when she came home.
     
  10. beckrodgers

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    cops

    we dont watch it or any uther current cop shows .we have stayed abreast of the militarization of our police forces thru sof mag,guns and ammo, and a couple of others. we are pretty new to the net. we read a lot at keep and bear arms, vin supryno---- sorry he wrote send in the waco killers, i never thought i would find a like minded soul ,any way i read at his site as well. education, determination,faith, firepower. thanks. sorry someone got killed or died before there time,bad on those left behind
     
  11. dude

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    He was not 'killed', he fell and died If someone pushed him off the cliff, then he would have been killed.
    ...............big difference with the same result!


    His death while sad, was more of a failed brain-engagement than anything else.
     
  12. 280PLUS

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    The show really does bring to light the stresses put on our police forces but cops I know tell me it takes them a few months of ride alongs to have enough to fill that 22 minutes or so of actual time on the streets you see each week. Or is it an hour show? I used to watch it but not so much any more. I've gotten the impression that some of those guys are hamming it up for the camera a little and sometimes at the expense of the individuals being apprehended.
    When I was a kid I spent the summer of '71 with my uncle "Pete" Cuccaro who retired from the Dade County Sheriff's office a few years back. I noticed someone around here is from Miami so you might recognize the name. I believe he is still now chief of the Miami school district police.
    Anyhow '71 was his rookie year. I did ride alongs with him, court appearances with him, partied and played cards with him and his cop buddies and their families every week for a whole summer. I knew a lotta cops by the end of the summer. From that time on I've always held a high respect for these people and what they do. And i've found that no matter what the situation, if I treat them with respect they will respond in kind. Actually, I think they get so much crap from people on such a regular basis that when you're actually pleasant to them it throws them off...it's gotten me more than my share of breaks over the years. sorry if I rambled off the path here. and i'm always sorry to hear of any death.

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  13. Don Gwinn

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    J Miller, I agree, but that wasn't COPS. That was "America's Wildest Police Chases." I watched it at my in-laws' house. Luckily I had just finished explaining why 007 probably wouldn't have shot down a helicopter with one, so I just gave them a look and didn't have to explain it again.
     
  14. Topgun

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    COPS is a propaganda show

    Entertaining to some but hugely popular as the "target" audience sees it as "successful law enforcement."

    A critical eye can see that it is Jerry Springer in a squad car. The hapless get their day on camera in the trailer park.

    No "heavy" crime is depicted as that is complicated law enforcement and quite often determined by who has the geetus to stack a jury or afford a lawyer smarter than the DA.

    (OJ)

    I use the show as a filler for the odd 12 or 14 minutes before something I want to see is on.

    Some is funny, but most is a sad commentary on the state of our poorer segments of "society."

    A bad display of our willingness to send beaucoup bucks all over the world and not provide some assistance to our own citizens who are not rocket scientists or brokers.
     
  15. Meanoldfart

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    280plus,
    No flame intended, but if you want us to read your post, please learn to capitalize, make paragraphs, and use some form of recognizable grammer.

    You seem to be intelligent and I assume that you have something valuable to contribute, but I just can not wade thru that maze.:)
    MOF
     
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    i really cant see how COPS is just 'propoganda'. i think its a show that had good intentions when it began but its become a showcase for LEO's to show how tough they are, or how intelligent they are, and its diluted the shows intensity.

    perhaps the one thing that could be seen as 'propoganda' is the editing and choosing of what footage to use in the show. how often do you see police on the show encountering armed civilians? or when do you see shootouts between badguys and good guys?

    most of us have ranted and raved about the blatant ignorance of individual LEO's we watch on the show making false statements about firearms, their lethality, and how they are 'a menace to society'.

    the best episode of COPS was when they did the fictional crossover with the X-Files.
     
  17. rock jock

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    A shame. I actually enjoy "Cops". I think some of the officers are posing a little for the cameras, but that happens in every walk of life. Overall, a good show.
     
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    Sorry dude, but killed is correct! The fall "killed" him, it did not "die" him.

    Now, if someone pushed him off of the cliff, he would have been murdered, but you could still use the word kill. The word kill in this instance is a verb, not a noun, used to indicate the lose of life.

    Just want to be precise!
    :)
     
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    AK103K has it right!!!! Quantrill
     
  20. David

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    Cactus, I think you are correct...

    From my limited knowledge of grammar, "killed" is indeed a verb.

    Think about this sentence:

    An accident "killed" the producer of the popular TV show COPS.

    Just my 2 cents...
     
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    Even worse propaganda than COPS is the John Bunnel hosted FOX specials like "Scariest Police Chases" etc. That guy makes it sound like every cop can drive like Mario Andretti and catch bullets in their teeth. He also glosses over stupid LEO mistakes that often led to the situation being shown or failed to stop it in a reasonable manner. Pretty unsubtle in the "law and order, but cops are special" rhetoric. :barf:

    Someone from Portland give me the scoop on this John Bunnel. I remember him on the early days of COPS, when he was a Capt. (?) in the Multnomah Co. sheriff's office, playing to the camera. I guess he became Sheriff, thanks to the publicity, but it wasn't too long afterward that he was hosting FOX specials (= one-termer).
     
  22. 280PLUS

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    old fart...this is not a flame back, i'm just sorry my idea of how to post doesn't fit your mold...

    :neener:

    m

    later:

    ok, i went back and spruced it up just for you. please feel free to further critique it for me and let me know how i did...

    ;)

    look at that, i went to allll the trouble of making paragraphs and indenting just for oldfart and does it come up, noooooooooo.

    :cuss:

    LMAO
     
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    It's a good show if you want to catalogue how many possible phoney "probable cause" excuses a cop can invent when he wants to infringe on somebodies civil liberties.

    I've watched the show often enough to harden my attitudes about police in general. Weirdly, cops seem to really like the show, thinking it shows them in a good light...?

    I don't blame this guy for any of that - there is certainly no political commentary, he just shows it and it's up to you to draw the lesson.

    Keith
     
  24. Blackhawk

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    Sad.

    Life's dangerous.... :D
     
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    tyme,
    I couldn't disagree more. Look at the story, the reporter is not saying he is feared dead, she is relating what the Coast guard is saying. This is the way journalism is supposed to work, the writer correctly attributes everything in the story to an official source.

    A fall can kill, you don't need a person to kill, just something to to the killing. You can be killed by an rogue bowling ball. And if I recall it can be either transitive or intransitive.
     
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