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Saddam's Glock 18 in Bush Museum

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by razorback2003, Nov 10, 2010.

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  1. razorback2003

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    I'm sure it was imported legally and properly registered under the NFA.
     
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    Including this particular Glock 18, how many does that bring the total to in the USA?
     
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    Very neat link!
     
  6. razorback2003

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    I do wonder how this one was papered with the ATF. I'm guessing there is a process to make Saddam's Glock 18 legal for museums/display, kind of like there is a legal process for the blackwater guys to buy full auto and export them for work to the Mid East.
     
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    I wonder who got his Browning High Power.
    [​IMG]

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    I'm not fond of the concept of war trophies. Especially not for this particular war. I don't see any real winner of this war. I see lots of losers. So the idea of a trophy from it is disgusting to me.

    As to substantive THR content, this further confirms my suspicion that the law only applies to the little guy. The Bush Museum is owned by Southern Methodist University. I am aware of no exemptions to the GCA or FOPA that would reopen the registry for such a firearm to a private entity, nor to the ex-President, himself.

    Perhaps it's been de-milled?

    FWIW- I don't believe that Xe (Blackwater), or any other mercenary group has any exemption to possess FA weapons stateside, either.
     
  9. TexasRifleman

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    The firearm is Federal property, therefore not subject to the gun laws. The Federal government can have all of the full auto firearms it wants, and of any type.

    Gifts to representatives of the US Government valued at more than $285 become the property of the Federal Archives.

    It is very common for the Archives to make loans of these items to Presidential Libraries but the gun belongs to the Federal Government, not Bush.
     
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    1) the Bush (43) Presidential Library has not been constructed yet
    2) the Bush (43) Library will be built on land at the Campus of SMU, but will not "belong" to SMU
    3) the Johnson Library resides at the University of Texas (and it does not "belong" to UT)
    4) the Clinton Library resides in Little Rock (etc.)
    5) the G18 is cool no matter what
    6) why does it matter if President Bush has Saddam's G18 and displays it?
     
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    5) the G18 is cool no matter what
    6) why does it matter if President Bush has Saddam's G18 and displays it?

    come on man... what you you give for hiltler's walther?
     
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    Nothing political about it--Thanks for the post.

    Take a look at the Mini-Series Band of Brothers and see how they vigorously pursue Nazi Lugers.

    -Cheers
     
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    Clinton's library has a branch of the University of Arkansas called the School of Public Service. The UofA main branch is in Fayetteville but the Clinton Library is in Little Rock.

    I have been to both the LBJ Library and the Clinton Library and they have a lot of history during the time period. I remember there was an AK style rifle at the Clinton Library. Never miss an opportunity to see a presidential library. I'd like to see the Bush Library at SMU when it is finished to see this Glock 18.
     
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    Very Kool piece of history.
     
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    Now that is interesting. Do you have a cite for the law or regulation that governs this?
     
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    What would also be interesting is what the soldiers had to go through with the secret service to be able to carry a pistol into the oval office to present it as a gift.
     
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    That's a great war prize.
     
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    So the idea of a trophy from it is disgusting to me.

    I've got a German P-38 and a K98 Mauser that my grandfather brought back from WW2. I think I'll shoot them both this weekend in your honor. :neener:
     
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    That's so cool. Usually when you think of war trophy guns you think of antiques. It's pretty cool to have a Glock 18 trophy gun.

    Umm...Saddam was clearly the loser and we the victor.
     
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    It's US code, applies to military as well. I should know th exact code since I am studying for E6, but I don't. :( I may check my study guide later...
     
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    Moderator Comment: If we want this thread to continue, we won't be debating the war in Iraq or any other political subjects.
     
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    Latest rules for war trophies?

    Just curious - what are the latest rules for war trophies of any sort? I'm under the impression that it's no longer permissible for any materials to be taken from deceased enemy personnel, let alone "bring back" weapons.
    I'm not for or against the practice, just curious if it's been offically banned, and if not, what the new rules are.
     
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    I think it's a shame the soldier that actually seized the weapon doesn't get to keep it.
     
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    Delta gifted the weapon to President Bush.
     
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