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Saf-T-Block

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by synapse, Apr 4, 2004.

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  1. synapse

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    I am attracted to Glock pistols (the model 19, in particular), but am not fully comfortable with the lack of safety.

    However, I am aware of a product called the Saf-T-Block http://www.clipdraw.com/saftblok.html
    that may help with this concern.

    Does anyone have experience with this product? As advertised, does it REALLY add ZERO draw/fire time to the weapon? (I do not see how this is possible).

    By the way, before anyone asks :) I am attracted to glock pistols due to the rust resitance and light weight but have never owned one (but seriously considering it)

    Thanks,
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  2. Erich

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    Yes, I've owned a Saf-T-Block for my Glock 33. It was the only way to carry the gun safely in a fanny pack w/o a holster.

    It worked perfectly, and did not add a second to the time it took to fire. I think very highly of the product. About 6 years ago at Glock Talk (the old Glock Talk) there was a lot of chatter about the product. I don't know if it's still archived.
     
  3. cidirkona

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    I think I'll get one when I pick up my Glock 27 on Friday just because it'll be easier to lock it up on the fly, or with a cable to the bottom of my seat in my car...

    -Colin
     
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    That one requires modification and doesn't double as a gunlock...

    I bet it's not $20 either...

    -Colin
     
  6. jc2

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    He was concerned about the lack of a safety on Glocks--not gunlocks. I just offered him another alternative to explore--and while not $20, it is reasonably priced (and the modification not void Glock's warranty). If he wants to look at he can--f not no big deal. I'm not trying to sell either one.
     
  7. cidirkona

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    ...And I'm just expressing that when I pick up my Glock on Friday, I will be ordering a Saf-T-Blok.

    -Colin
     
  8. longeyes

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    I like 'em. They are safer than any manual safety if inserted properly. That pistol is just not going to go off. They can be popped out as the gun is being drawn with little or no loss of speed.

    And they just might save your behind if someone is able to grab your gun.
     
  9. eyz

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    I have two of them and used them all the time before I sold\traded my Glocks. They are worth every penny. They provide insurance against any possible bone-headed discharges. I carried thunderwear, jacket pocket (no holster), non gun fanny pack (no holster), other pocket (no holster). Like was said previously if somebody should grab your weapon by surprise force they won't know how to fire it before they can be disarmed.
     
  10. gamegod86

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    I have a saf-t-block/clipdraw combo on a g26. I don't generally carry it, mainly because I just prefer a holster.

    Be sure to practice with it a lot. That thing is very easy to forget.

    It really is a bad feeling when you have to fire and can't.

    It really can add zero time to your draw, but to do that, you have to practice and make the act of popping it out a fluid motion that is instinctive more than thought.

    I think that you should either use it all the time or not at all to prevent confusion in a SHTF situation.
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  11. cidirkona

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    Good point...

    Hey EYZ, you wouldn't still happen to have them now that you don't have your glocks anymore, do ya? ;) :D

    I've also been thinking of getting one of those ClipDraw things just for added support while holstered, or unholstered IWB carry... but honestly, I'm worried about it scratching. Has anyone tried of of these? Did it cause extra wear in the Tenifer (or whatever their version is called)?

    -Colin
     
  12. cidirkona

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    ...and why doens't Glockmeister carry these??

    -Colin
     
  13. Island Beretta

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    ..really finger off trigger until on target and you are cool..

    ..as for if someone grabs your gun..hello!!! :what:
     
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    ..really finger off trigger until on target and you are cool..

    ..as for if someone grabs your gun..hello!!! :what:
     
  15. synapse

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    How Much Force is required?

    Sorry with all the questions, but my purchase of that Glock 19 is about 90% certain but does rely on the 3 questions below...Thanks.1

    1) How much force is required to remove the SAF-T-BLOCK?

    2) Will it come free 'automatically' if left in a backpack and shaken around?

    3) How safe is it for Mexican Carry?

    Thanks,
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  16. jc2

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    1. It is adjustable (very limited though)--you set how much force is required to move it.

    2. Yes it can (unless you use the optional padlock). Consider that it is set to pop free with pressure from the base pad of your trigger finger (probably less than a pound pressure), if anything presses against the side that exerts as much more pressure than the base pad of your trigger finger than in will pop out. I would not trust it carried loose in a backpack.

    3. I wouldn't for the same reasons enumerated above. I could also see it as being quite easy to lose on the draw (as you removed the weapon from your waistband) or as you shift round.

    If you really want to carry a Glock loose in a backpack, you best leave the chamber empty. If you want to carry a Glock IWB, you best invest in a good holster that covers the trigger guard. The SAF-T-BLOCK is not the answer for either situation. It does, however, make a good gun lock. After reading your concerns and questions, I am not sure that a Glock is what you really want/need.
     
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    I use a Clipdraw and Safe-T-Block all the time. It has never popped out accidentally. Can't really beat the Clipdraw for concealment. You'll find that even the thinnest holster adds thickness, plus they're just a pain in the @ss to mess with...
     
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    I carried my G19 for 3 years and never felt unsafe with the current Glock trigger safties.

    Quality holster with a trigger guard and control of your trigger finger is all you need.

    But, if it makes you feel more comfortable then by all means get one. Just make sure you can punch it out fast enough so that extra second wont get you killed.
     
  19. gamegod86

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    Another thing you might consider...

    The clipdraw doesn't allow the pistol to go far enough down in your pants, IMO.

    If you shove the gun way down, the clipdraw tries to push out away from the slide.

    I think that it needs to be made so the gun rides lower in the waistband.

    Just my opinion, FWIW.
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    Saf-T-Block's are great if you are carrying without a holster that covers the trigger. If you have a holster that covers the trigger, they are pointless. Glocks will not go off unless you pull the trigger period.

    Just for the record. Glocks have safeties, just no manual safeties. I believe Glocks are what a combat handgun should be. Below is an explanation of how the Glock safeties work.

    http://glockmeister.com/safeties.shtml

    -D
     
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    I have absolutely no experience with the Saf-T-Block. I carry a Glock 19.

    Not that I'm interested in getting one, but I'm just curious...

    How easy is it to remove if one is forced to draw with the weak hand?
     
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    shawn,

    Gretat point. It would be a pain to remove with the weak hand. Especially under stress, possibly injured.

    -D
     
  24. cidirkona

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    Hm, I didn't even think of that. I suppose you could wrap your finger inside it and pull it out, but you might as well pull the trigger to try that menooover (can't spell it, not going to try).

    -Colin
     
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    I like how in that PDF they call a "brain fart" a "brain fade." None the less, 99.9% of unintentional discharges are negligent.

    -Colin
     
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