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Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by Igyjastabay, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. bassjam

    bassjam Member

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    While the local safe sounds cool, leaving it in the garage would be the deal breaker for me. I'm not sure if you want the safe in your home or in the basement, but you'll probably regret getting the Major Safe every time you go out to the garage to grab a gun. Not to mention most garages don't have a whole lot of spare room if you park your car in there, so what space will you be giving up to have this safe?
     
  2. Elkins45

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    If I had the option of getting a tool rated safe I would buy it every time.
     
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  3. George P

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    Why would someone regret going to their garage to go to their safe? My first safe was in my garage in 4 houses; no problem at all. If you're worried about someone seeing you, do ti with the garage door closed. I had mine placed between two sets of homemade wooden shelves with a blanket over it. It looked cluttered enough, you wouldn't even think to look
     
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  4. John Joseph

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    Security would be the issue with a garage. Thieves have carted off safes red bolted to the slab. Not that hard if you've got a vehicle that's up for the job..
     
  5. earlthegoat2

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    Doesn’t hooking a heavy object up to vehicle for the purposes of dislodging it from its perch and then apparently dragging it to this secluded location cause a complete hailstorm of noise?

    I know some of us live in the sticks but not the majority of us.
     
  6. George P

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    The safe he is contemplating weighs 3000# empty
     
  7. bassjam

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    I didn't say everyone would regret it, but the OP said he didn't like the idea, and I wouldn't either. My garage get's cold in the winter and I like that I can go to the safe in my basement in my bare feet and shorts and linger as long as I want and stay warm. And even with a workshop off to the side in my garage, space in there is at a premium and a safe takes up a lot of room that otherwise could be used for a workbench, toolchest, or other large tool like a hydraulic press or belt sander. Meanwhile, I have room to spare in my basement.
     
  8. John Joseph

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    "Not that hard if you've got a vehicle that's up for the job.".
     
  9. George P

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    True, they could bring an armored vehicle towing a forklift and lowboy too; but the practical matter is 3000+# , especially anchored, isn't going anywhere. And if by chance that happens, there's nothing you could have done anyway.
     
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  10. earlthegoat2

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    I don’t see an issue with keeping a safe in the garage that is so heavy it would take large equipment to move.

    OTOH, some folks have really good tools in their garage which could be:

    a) stolen in lieu of even worrying about what is inside of such a monsterous safe
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    b) used to break into said safe

    I probably don’t have enough cut off wheels on hand to cut a big enough hole into any safe. If someone came prepared though, they just might have enough. Which brings us back to the point that no safe or container will survive a determined and pointed effort against it. (same concept as personal defense)

    I’m a big fan of real safes over RSCs. (though I have an RSC as well as a cannonball safe and am still looking for the right larger safe) Fire ratings mean little to me and I kind of think they don’t mean much to manufacturers or insurance companies either as long as the device is keeping your valuables secure. If your house goes up in flames, the only thing that is going to survive is the dirt it is built on. I was a safe delivery and installer once upon a time and saw first hand RSCs (not real safes) that had been through fires. We don’t have basements here so that is the context I am coming from.
     
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  11. Igyjastabay

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    Thank you for all the advice. I purchased the used tool rated safe and had it installed in my garage. It took three big guys and a steel ramp to get it up and over 1 1/2” concrete lip at the entrance of my garage. It took the same guys about an hour to level it with a jack. The lock smith who came over to change the combo told me it was a waste of time to anchor the safe which I wanted to do. I learned it actually weighs 3500#. The door alone weighs 1200#. The lock smith told me he has seen many gun safes broken into here in Florida, he said battery operated saw zaws do a number on most safes in little time. I may have over did it this time, but I guess the piece of mind is worth it.
     
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  12. Walkalong

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    Nice, you did well.
     
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  13. EMT40SW

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    I would have picked the used TR-15 safe too. Awesome safe, I especially like the stainless steel torch protector on the lock area. Everyone talks about fire protection but that’s like using your health insurance to pay for auto body repair from a wreck. If you want real fire protection get a sprinkler system installed in your house. Now here are some more things to do:

    1. Conceal that safe from street view, either by putting a blanket over it or painting it the wall color.

    2. Make sure your free NRA Arms Care insurance is active.

    3. Add a dial light & interior lighting

    4. Build interior dividers to make the safe fit your needs. Rifle Rods are also cool. Then enjoy the piece of mind.
     
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